Javierdude22: Hey you guys. I am finishing up my Masters in Sustainable Development & the Environment, and an obvious topic in that is climate change. I am not so much the freaky environmentalist. I don't wear organic cotton clothes, don't chain myself to nuclear waste, or throw cake at bad politicians (tempting, but no). I am however worried and frustrated about this topic though, and well, as i always like a discussion, i thought id share my frustration with the lot of ya. In 1992 the world came together in Rio, and later again in Kyoto (1997) to try to agree on CO2 reduction. The talks were about a reduction of anywhere between 6-8 percent for the Western developed societies, the developing countries and Russia could still emit much more. The emissionrates had to be reduced from 1990 levels!!. The promised percentages are a drop of water on a hot plate, as 60% reduction was needed to nullify climate changes. But ok...to show goodwill. We finally have an agreement to sign the friggin' treaty, but the second Bush (yeah sorry) marched into the White House with his oil dripping entourage, one of the first 'acts' was to cancel Kyoto. Climate Change caused by CO2 had not been proven, so he stated. The fact that the rest of the world did think so, as well as the UN, and every leading science agency, had no effect obviously. Somewhere in the spring of 2001, Bush's own scientists however came to the conclusion that CO2 was causing climate change. Bush shook no. Eversince i started my studies, i took careful notice of the worlds weather. It has been proven that the earth has warmed up since the 1950's, a few degrees C. Holland was known as a very cold country always, frozen lakes and snow were inherently Dutch, and many painting from Dutch masters portray a cold and snowfilled winter. Since the beginning of the 1980's however, we have maybe a weekend or two of iceskating, and maybe 3 scattered days of snowfall. Normally it also rains like hell in Holland. This year it has hardly rained since the beginning of FEbruary. Every month this year has had record temperatures. 2003 will be in the top 5 of the warmest since 1890. And 6 of the 8 years since 1995 have been one of the warmest since meteorology took off in Holland. Now i am also getting news from friends in cali that strange storms are taking place. Italy has had above 30 degree temperatures eversince March. A lotta people died there from the heat. The Matterhorn has lost a few feet cause the top melted (for real!) Rivers are treading out of their boundaries almost every year now. (Remember the Danube last year, flooding Prague and Dresden?). What i am trying to say is: No Climate Change??!?!? MY ASSS!!!!