"No Knock" Supreme Court Ruling

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derfman said:
1......I currently have a ccw(concealed weapon permit)in nv az and ut...which means I can carry 20...not only the fifteen handguns I own. So I need to get 5 more in my eyes. Not extreeme yet :tongue:

It's good that you seek to improve your situation.:tongue:

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2....Yes I do own those right because I am a registered voter and I vote! If you dont your opinon means nothing in regards to this issue. My family has been here since day one...one side was already here as well so yeah :mad:

Yes, I vote too, and man, those polling stations are like war zones aren't they.:mad:

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3....No cop in his right mind is going to come through a door he just saw parts of his partner come out of. And just in case he did...thats why I have more than one bullet in any given gun:cool:

Be prepared, good strategy, nice stand off, get on telly so your family can watch you get gunned down...live on CNN.:smile:

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I will not allow people into MY home that I dont want there....period

As it should be, I'm with you there, though personally, I just say no, you can't come in. 100% success rate so far..and of course no messy body parts or awkard questions down the nick.:biggrin1:
 

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Um dong...

Now here in the states....where you are obviously not from things are different. When we vote, things change. We dont need the queen mum telling us what to do, Actually thats why we left some 200 years ago. :eek:
I know we are being funny and all, but I happen to be one of the "rednecks" you have no doubt read about in some book that that your school marm gave you. I happen to own a trailer on my own land, I have followed every law to keep people out, such as signs and fences. And I do take my right to shoot an intruder in my home fairly seriously.
It would not be broadcast on CNN for god sakes....do you know how many hours real standoffs go for?! 8-12 if not more....usually end with the guy popping himself. AND HAPPEN EVERY DAY!!
I have no reason to have a police officer at my front door, LET ALONE CRAWLING INTO MY HOUSE UNNANOUNCED.....hence my outright distain for this us supreme ruling. I am simply saying it would turn out differently if it happened at MY HOUSE.:tongue:​
 

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derfman said:
3....No cop in his right mind is going to come through a door he just saw parts of his partner come out of. And just in case he did...thats why I have more than one bullet in any given gun:cool:

I will not allow people into MY home that I dont want there....period
dude, ur crazy.

every guy in my house has a weapon of some sort in the closet...i have a couple of long blades and 3 guns(20-gauge shotgun, mini-14 caliber rifle, and a russian pen gun(souvenir from afghanistan)), but i wud never even consider raising/pointing them at a cop; cops dont want to come into ur house, the poor bastards are just doing their jobs.

*though i cant say i havent fantasized about butchering a burglar.
 

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rhino_horn said:
dude, ur crazy.

every guy in my house has a weapon of some sort in the closet...i have a couple of long blades and 3 guns(20-gauge shotgun, mini-14 caliber rifle, and a russian pen gun(souvenir from afghanistan)), but i wud never even consider raising/pointing them at a cop; cops dont want to come into ur house, the poor bastards are just doing their jobs.

*though i cant say i havent fantasized about butchering a burglar.

I think the he's insane as well, if he were to even to raise a gun at a cop he should expect a standoff within minutes, let alone to shoot one. Things get crazy when theres a simple car chase. (The media starts with Breaking News Graphics even if its primetime TV and will have the whole thing televised) If there was a standoff expect to be surrounded by SWAT and have 6 Helicopters above your house (4 Local Media and 2 Police) The only reason the cops would not just shoot you is because of the media. The only time the media does something useful :biggrin:
 

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derfman said:
Um dong...Now here in the states....where you are obviously not from things are different. When we vote, things change. We dont need the queen mum telling us what to do, Actually thats why we left some 200 years ago. :eek:

Nor here, mostly because she had not constitutional power, and of course dying over four years ago has crimped her style of late. As for voting, well your track record in voting for change over the last couple of elections would back you up there, things have got much much worse and, your nice President has generously spread his trigger happy mentality all around the world for us all to share in!!:tongue:

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I know we are being funny and all, but I happen to be one of the "rednecks" you have no doubt read about in some book that that your school marm gave you. I happen to own a trailer on my own land, I have followed every law to keep people out, such as signs and fences. And I do take my right to shoot an intruder in my home fairly seriously.

Rednecks weren't on the curriculum at school, I had to discover them in person...you know there is a theory that the term is actually of religious origin from Scotland/Ireland, and US TV of course which we all know always tells the truth. Now, where did I leave my banjo? :smile:

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It would not be broadcast on CNN for god sakes....do you know how many hours real standoffs go for?! 8-12 if not more....usually end with the guy popping himself. AND HAPPEN EVERY DAY!!

I love a good standoff but can seldom watch a whole one, far too busy learning how to curtsey and doff my cap to the royals.:tongue:

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I have no reason to have a police officer at my front door, LET ALONE CRAWLING INTO MY HOUSE UNNANOUNCED.....hence my outright distain for this us supreme ruling. I am simply saying it would turn out differently if it happened at MY HOUSE.:tongue:

On all of the above quote, I completely agree with you.:biggrin1:
 

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OK....insane,and crazy.

Ill take crazy but not insane. I know insanity well.

I just went to my local pd web page to view the crime stats where I currently reside. In las vegas nevada...I actually live in clark county.....

In the last 30 days....there have been 10 assaults ..... 5 car theft recoveries from car jackings....3 batterys with the use of a gun...25 juvinile meliciousness(sp) lol ....7 burglaries.......13 robberies.....domestics like crazy........and non of these were even considered violent.

Oh yeah...and thats in an eigth mile diameter......hmmmmm

Am I crazy for protecting myself? NO

Not even going to comment on the fact that ALL of my guns are legal and the fact they are all registered to me.....unlike somone owning a zip gun from afganistan......complete felony just to have let alone own in all of the United States!

Cops are just doing their jobs...but there are obviously people that "bend" the law to their likeing......I think your nuts for having a zip gun in your home btw.
 

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derfman said:
Am I crazy for protecting myself? NO

Not even going to comment on the fact that ALL of my guns are legal and the fact they are all registered to me.....unlike somone owning a zip gun from afganistan......complete felony just to have let alone own in all of the United States!

Cops are just doing their jobs...but there are obviously people that "bend" the law to their likeing......I think your nuts for having a zip gun in your home btw.

1) ur crazy 4 saying ud blast a cop. my mental picture of u fits charles bronson from death wish.

2) the gun looks like a pen, but can be unscrewed to fit one bullet.-i dont have any bullets for it, and ive never fired it...its a SOUVENIR, which i keep in a safe.
 

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derfman said:
OK....insane,and crazy.

Ill take crazy but not insane. I know insanity well.

Crazy is good, I often do crazy.:smile:

derfman said:
I just went to my local pd web page to view the crime stats where I currently reside. In las vegas nevada...I actually live in clark county.....

In the last 30 days....there have been 10 assaults ..... 5 car theft recoveries from car jackings....3 batterys with the use of a gun...25 juvinile meliciousness(sp) lol ....7 burglaries.......13 robberies.....domestics like crazy........and non of these were even considered violent.

Now, that is insane..:rolleyes:

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Oh yeah...and thats in an eigth mile diameter......hmmmmm

Am I crazy for protecting myself? NO

I understand honestly, I just think there must be a better way, if you don't then I'll think you're insane.:tongue:

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Not even going to comment on the fact that ALL of my guns are legal and the fact they are all registered to me.....unlike somone owning a zip gun from afganistan......complete felony just to have let alone own in all of the United States!

I don't doubt they're legal, and it's that very legality that worries me.:eek:

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Cops are just doing their jobs...but there are obviously people that "bend" the law to their likeing......I think your nuts for having a zip gun in your home btw.

I agree, it's not a job I would relish even here. I'm glad you draw a line somewhere.:smile:

P.S.
I still think 35 firearms is seriously OTT!! unless you really do have 55 arms in which case, join the circus and you will soon be rich enough to buy your very own gun free island!!:eek: :biggrin1:
 

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Rhino...thats a zip gun...A FELONY no matter how you wish to call it. I highly doubt you have a museum and can consider that a collectible. The fact you have no rounds for it means nothing.

I own a clip...not a gun....not rounds...but a clip that is a felony to have in California...Thank god Im in Nevada, will sell it once I am on my way down there though.:biggrin1:



 

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derfman said:
Rhino...thats a zip gun...A FELONY no matter how you wish to call it. I highly doubt you have a museum and can consider that a collectible. The fact you have no rounds for it means nothing.​



ur venting, because ur jealous i have more games under my trophy.​

I own a clip...not a gun....not rounds...but a clip that is a felony to have in California...Thank god Im in Nevada, will sell it once I am on my way down there though.:biggrin1:

*ur still crazy.





 

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derfman said:
Ur right damnit.....I need a mouse so I can beat you......lol

I am on my laptop....sucks for games :rolleyes:
or u cud pray i find a job...one of those wud sure keep me away from here.


*excuses..excuses:cool:

Guns=Stupid, IMO
when a team of rapist clown murderers show up at ur bedside with hard-ons...i bet ud u had one or two...or 35 guns---to each his own.
 

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rhino_horn said:
when a team of rapist clown murderers show up at ur bedside with hard-ons...i bet ud u had one or two...or 35 guns---to each his own.

So, If there at my bedside I'm going to some how be able to get my gun? Do I sleep with it or something?
 

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So, If there at my bedside I'm going to some how be able to get my gun? Do I sleep with it or something?

WELL, the point was that its better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it; especially if u live in an area prone to robbery.

*and yes, ur supposed to have it close to bed. ur ass is more vulnerable when ur asleep.
 

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rhino_horn said:
WELL, the point was that its better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it; especially if u live in an area prone to robbery.

*and yes, ur supposed to have it close to bed. ur ass is more vulnerable when ur asleep.

What about a Taser gun or an old fashioned taser? Knife? Needle fillled with air?
 

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findfirefox said:
What about a Taser gun or an old fashioned taser? Knife? Needle fillled with air?

none of that stuff will ever work...knife, taser, death by paper cuts, needle with air, genie in a bottle, wishing him away to the cornfields...no...he'll just beat u, rape u, kill u, rape u again, steal all ur stuff, and maybe rape u again if ur ass is still warm...nothing is left to chance with a gun.
 

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rhino_horn said:
none of that stuff will ever work...knife, taser, death by paper cuts, needle with air, genie in a bottle, wishing him away to the cornfields...no...he'll just beat u, rape u, kill u, rape u again, steal all ur stuff, and maybe rape u again if ur ass is still warm...nothing is left to chance with a gun.

Tasers work just fine. I also use my alarm system.
 

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I do own a few firearms - a shotgun, a rifle, and a handgun. I have had proper training in their use, care, and storage. I periodically take them all to the firing range to keep them in good working order (and I'm damned good with them, too.) They stay in the gun safe, though - but not to worry, it only takes me seconds to get one out and get the ammo in. Next to the bed, I have a mace. No, not a spray-can of mace, but the old-fashioned "club with spikes". We have lots of weapons/swords/knives/maces/flails in our collection, mostly just for display - but all quite functional.

If a SWAT team decided to swarm my home, they would no doubt eventually win - but by goddess they would lose more from their team than I would from mine.

As for the idea that "they don't want to enter your home, they are just doing their job", tell that to Mr. Lawrence, of "Lawrence v. Texas." If the police are trying to serve a warrant that they know is bogus, well, I just have a problem with that. I don't steal; I don't do drugs; I don't do things that are harmful to anyone else; I'm not a spy. If the police try to enter my home, they are definitely NOT just doing their job.