No religious or political talk

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  1. Hotrocker

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    Something my grandfather taught me well before he passed away... was people skills. He was a charming, charismatic, tactful man who passed to me his tips.

    The tip Ive brought up? Don't talk about politics or religion with people unless you know how they'll react.

    Unless you're a good friend of mine or family... I won't talk about those two subjects so that I can avoid an unpleasent argument.

    I can't be the only one whos believes this as well...
     
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    Why, how can we ever communicate ideas to others if we are not supposed to talk about them?
    I think you can talk about anything as long as you are civil and have an open mind.
     
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    I never in the past viewed political or religious babble as a proper "ice-breaker," if you will... so I sure as hell don't now. The fact is... this world, on average, is as far from "civil" and "open-minded" as it gets... and the truly tactful know that.

    Always assume a gun is loaded...

    Always assume that the stranger you're about to mention politics/religion to is an ignorant moron who you can offend as easily as you can see.

    Once you establish that its safe to talk about those two subjects, then by all means... blab away.
     
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    I give people the benifit of the doubt. But I agree, politics and religion would be foolish icebreakers.

    "Hi, nice to meet ya. Man, I wish those crazy Christians won't shut up about stopping stem cell research. Can I freshen up your drink for ya? "

    :tongue:
     
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    My parents taught me the same thing.

     
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    HAHA, excellent hypothetical situation. Made me slap a knee :tongue:

    I wish I could give everyone the benefit of the doubt. That would be ideal for humanity if we could all do that...

    unfortunately for us all... there are too many dumbasses in this fine fine world.
     
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    I've had my most painful heated arguments over hot topics with good friends and family members rather than strangers. Some of them aren't friends anymore as a result. The pain of verbal jabs from friends or family lasts far longer than that from strangers.
     
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    Hear hear. You know what I mean from experience, then. I've had the same kind of shit happen to me... and it only goes to show how ignorant this world is.
     
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    Yup, you can pick your friends, not your family.

    That is why I feel closer to my friends than my family most of the time.
     
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    I feel for you, however I cant relate. My family is all similar to me, for which Im lucky
     
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    I had an argument with my brother about Bush and the war three years ago and have only spoken to him twice since then...and that was when our father passed away
     
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    If it weren't for the fact I look just like them I would think I was adopted. If I could divorce my cousins I would.:rolleyes:
     
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    Bullshit.

    It sounds like southern avoidance to me. Not a quality that's at all desirable. There's nothing worse than someone filling the air with platitudes and fake politeness.

    I'm not into confrontation myself but I also don't avoid it. If we can't communicate with our fellow human beings, what the hell are we doing here?
     
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    Firstly, theres nothing southern about my "platitudes." I should say "Im as far from southern as it gets, thanks" but thats negligible. The fact is...

    Human beings, on average, do not like confrontation...

    if you want to be Billy Badass over here insulting every freethinker you meet, by all means... go right ahead.

    There is such a thing as tact and consideration... and without that, aren't you just plain ignorant?
     
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    I was always taught not to discuss these topics at a meal. Nothing can destroy a Thanksgiving faster... It's not an avoidance issue. It's a practical way to get through dinner.
     
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    that advice is good sound advice from gramps.....and should be used when dealing with people on this internet formum "LPSG'
     
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    heh, gracias. :usa:
     
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    Tact and consideration are qualities I tend to value alot simply because I enjoy informative dialogue, even with people I disagree with. When tact and consideration are used, understanding of opposing perspectives tends to improve and I see that as healthy.

    But clearly not everyone values tact or consideration. Some intelligent people see tact as an unnecessary frill or even a weakness. That's not a personality trait I admire with but I don't equate lack of tact with ignorance.
     
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