Nobel peace prize to Mr Obama

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I'm going to watch this thread with interest (and from cover!)

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I think I can hear Trannity crying.
 

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"The Nobel Committee said he was awarded it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples"."
BBC NEWS | Europe | Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

Highly premature, but whatever.
Actually, this is like a Grammy/Oscar/other pop culture bullshit award - all style and no substance. :no:

I think I can hear Trannity crying.

Trannity? :rolleyes:
 

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Gordon Brown statesman of the year and now this imposition. Everthing is up for sale now. An honourable man would decline and say to the sychophants, come back in 4 years and see what I have done to deserve such an accolade. It devalues the award to hand it just to the powerful.
 
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Here's the full text of the announcement from the Nobel Committee:

Announcement

The Norwegian Nobel Committee

The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009


The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."


Oslo, October 9, 2009
 

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This is bizarre. I was not convinced that the story was for real until I found other reports that confirm it. I mean, I voted for the guy, but I can't see what he has done to merit this award. Sure, judged by comparison with his immediate predecessor, his record in international politics may seem outstanding, but by that standard, the Obama family dog could win the Nobel Peace Prize.
 
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I wish I could be a fly on the wall when Bush Jr. hears the news this morning.
 
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I thought it was goin to Hickboy this year??? :tongue:

(sorry Hicks, hehehe)
 

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getting an award that Yasser Arafat has won for "making peace", is hardly anything to crow about anymore.

also, how do you get a "peace prize" when you have just sent thousands more troops into an existing war zone, and 240 US troops have been killed there, and 1800 afghan civilians since you took office?

obviously Afghanistan was inherited, and i am not blaming him for that obviously, but perhaps you should get the peace prize for ending a war, not continuing it?

also, his policy and action on Darfur, has been woefully lacking and he has done zilch on congo.

he has talked about wanting a nuclear free world and has spoken about middle east peace...

how does making speeches about these things, but not actually accomplishing them yet, get you a peace prize? :confused:
 

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getting an award that Yasser Arafat has won for "making peace", is hardly anything to crow about anymore.

also, how do you get a "peace prize" when you have just sent thousands more troops into an existing war zone, and 240 US troops have been killed there, and 1800 afghan civilians since you took office?

obviously Afghanistan was inherited, and i am not blaming him for that obviously, but perhaps you should get the peace prize for ending a war, not continuing it?

also, his policy and action on Darfur, has been woefully lacking and he has done zilch on congo.he has talked about wanting a nuclear free world and has spoken about middle east peace...

how does making speeches about these things, but not actually accomplishing them yet, get you a peace prize? :confused:
I will take a great deal of flak for agreeing with what you have said; but as they say in Najaf: 'A lot of sand hitting the eyes can be less painful than a grain of sand stored in the throat.'

Anyway, since I am lazy, I will just show the copy of text I left in the Politics section on this matter:

Idiotic to say the least.

The nominations were made in February, less than a month after Obama had been sworn in (11 days). Not even 3 months after he had been elected. There was no proof at that time that he'd be able to do anything. It has been less than a year since his election, less than 9 months since he officially became President. Far too premature to have done something such as this. If Obama were half the man that all the crowers claim he is, he'd have had the decency to decline it-which would have elevated him to an even higher star status.

In 1966, 1967, 1955, 1956, 1948 1939-1943. 1932, 1928, 1923, 1924 nobody won-a similar thing could have been done here.


Other sitting Presidents who won-Thomas Woodrow Wilson, Founded The League Of Nations (predecessor of sorts to The United Nations) as part of The Treaty of Versailles. He won in 1919, late in his Presidential tenure.

Theodore Roosevelt-drew up the Japanese-Russian peace treaty of 1905. It was 1906; but at least he had something of a proven track record, having taken the reins from McKinley after the former was assassinated in 1901, and the treaty seemed to be holding.


To bestow so great an honor so early in the Presidency and with claims of the great and extraordinary things he has done is a way to both diminish the value which it has always held and to place a pressure so great on Obama that he will be fully screwed and skewered if he doesn't get Afghanistan and Iran and North Korea into peaceful harmony within their borders. While his efforts-which will hopefully be ongoing for a long while are good thus far, it slaps the faces of others who have fought far longer and harder.

So congratulations on an honor which may prove to be disastrous
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Maybe his speech in Cairo offered some glimmer of hope. It was, in my estimation quite the little masterpiece.

After the comments made by the committee last year, this is their way of making up for it and at the same time a vote of confidence. It is a constructive move on their behalf.

With our image being shredded by the blunders of the Bush admin. I don't care that it seems a bit premature.

Just an opinion.
 
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I find it hard to understand anyone disagreeing with this choice.



Oh, I love it when that happens:
Simple, having a 'vision' of no nuclear weapons is hardly the same thing as consigning them to history! There are a great many people who have done much more than Barack Obama and whose aspirations on that front are indentical,,myself included and yet haven't been given anything like a Nobel Prize.The decision is utterly beyond me!!
 
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Gordon Brown statesman of the year and now this imposition. Everthing is up for sale now. An honourable man would decline and say to the sychophants, come back in 4 years and see what I have done to deserve such an accolade. It devalues the award to hand it just to the powerful.
That sounds a very reasonable assertion!!
 

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As much as i LOOOOOOOOOVE Obama, I don`t think he deserved it, at least not this year!
I think I can hear Bono crying, again :):):)
 

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The reason they gave is true, no doubt about that, he does take effort. But maybe a bit too soon to get a Nobel Prize... There are others at the moment who earn it more... But yeah, the reason they gave is good.