Norma Mccorvey (jane Roe) Was Paid By Anti Choice Activists At End Of Life

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Fuck the religious right. Hypocrites need to read their own text.

God was pro-abortion. Not just pro-choice.

Give your wife the poison water if she cheats on you, kill that baby which wasn't formed from your seed, you the man who owns that woman through marriage. Fuck that shit. Fuck all of it.

Pro-life is not pro-life. It's Pro-CONTROL. Control of women's rights and reproductive choices.
 

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I am plenty emotional. Operation Rescue members threw trash on me as I was escorting women into clinics for a full array of healthcare. Including a woman losing her son, but no hospital would see her.

You just gain your composure more efficiently than I ever could.

You're fucking inspiring and I can't tell you how much I appreciate the fact that you exist on this Earth.

Edit. Thank you for everything you've done. From walking with women through those idiots protesting human rights, to helping me with everything I've been dealing with, to just sharing what you share here with us.
 

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I saw this, and felt so conflicted, was gonna start a thread but just couldn't without getting a bit emotional.

I'm mad at her for taking the money. Forgive, I have to. But the anger is still present at the moment.

I am plenty emotional. Operation Rescue members threw trash on me as I was escorting women into clinics for a full array of healthcare. Including a woman losing her son, but no hospital would see her.
 

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While, as a male, I've casually leaned towards one's right to choose most of my life, it wasn't till about maybe 25 years ago, when the company I worked for at the time assigned me to do security at a women's clinic at about the same time Operation Rescue and it's leader, domestic terrorist Randall Terry, were at their height of protesting, that really put me square in the pro-choice camp.

Witnessing young women go through the most difficult decision of their lives being harassed in the most vile way by those that pretended to have the moral high ground of religion gave me an insight into something that I admit as a man, I would never have to experience directly. For many years afterwards, reproductive rights, bodily autonomy and gender equality, which is all intertwined, become one of the most important political issues to me and I've been a member of Planned Parenthood ever since. That experience, along with several others, is also what gradually drew me away from deism to agnosticism to atheism and admittedly at times, having an automatically hostile response to what I see as the hypocrisy of organized religion.

So I too find it unfortunate that in this instance, the power of money overcame the power of principal and how much of her fake conversion was used by groups and lawmakers as "proof" and justification to suppress choice. It does feel like betrayal, even if given in our sometimes often unprincipled society, it's not unexpected.
 

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New one by me, but I have never dug into it, either. While personally I'm pro-life, my vote is pro-choice. I don't think I should be able to tell anyone what they can/can't do anymore than I like someone telling me what I can/can't.

FWIW, I rarely consider the Old Testament in how I live my life... there's so much i the OT that I just find bizarro. I default to "Jesus says to love" and let that be that.

My only issue with Any religious beliefs is when they are forced onto other's without consent.

I completely respect any woman's choice to not get an abortion just as much as I support other women's choice to have it done.
 

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The term "pro life" to me has always been a dog whistle.

If you talk to a pro-lifer at this very moment and tell them to wear a mask they will cough in your face and say "it's my body, and I'm free to do what I want with it."
This reply is 1,000 more likes.
Because we don’t have a “standing ovation” button.

funny how they competed pro choice language. Maybe they will get it, one day.
 

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Dissociation helps.


Awwwww...:heart::heart::heart:

I've tried so hard to do that, but I can't. I thoroughly feel and experience every moment, every thought I suffer as a human in this flesh. .

For reals, because of what you share with us here, and what you've shared with me (which is between only you and I, forever) I have made steps forward. A few people here have helped in similar ways. These threads, the stories you share about the things you've seen and done, they impact the fuck out of me. On levels.
 

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Underneath a landmark court case that still divides the nation however many years on... was an effectively single confused, abused woman with 2 kids she already couldn't look after who desperately wanted not to have another. And her problems clearly didn't finish with the abortion.

Who can honestly say what that would have done "the right thing" in her shoes.

And she was forced to carry her third unwanted pregnancy, the pregnancy relevant to Roe vs Wade , to term. :(
 

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I've tried so hard to do that, but I can't. I thoroughly feel and experience every moment, every thought I suffer as a human in this flesh. .

For reals, because of what you share with us here, and what you've shared with me (which is between only you and I, forever) I have made steps forward. A few people here have helped in similar ways. These threads, the stories you share about the things you've seen and done, they impact the fuck out of me. On levels.

the dissociation is an old coping mechanism. I don’t recommend it, but it pops up, unbidden.

and I fucking love you
 

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the dissociation is an old coping mechanism. I don’t recommend it, but it pops up, unbidden.

It's gotta be better than feeling every single second, as intensely as possible every time a triggering moment falls into your lap.

Grass is always greener, I suppose.

Fucking love you woman.
 

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It's gotta be better than feeling every single second, as intensely as possible every time a triggering moment falls into your lap.

Grass is always greener, I suppose.

Fucking love you woman.
You might yet get there. I didn’t zone out for years, and it started up again about 15 years ago.
The trauma was when I was a wee Begonia. Latchkey years.