North carolina bigotry

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Bring a set of balls into the restroom room marked Women and if there are kids in there I will personally insert my foot in your crouch to see if I can relocate your balls to your mouth.

If you got balls stay the hell out of the women restroom. And fuck any law they conger up.

And why the hell would I want to go into the mens restroom? Most of you piss all over everything anyway.
I'm sure you feel safe as do those around you in any restroom you share with others..You are a credit to your gender, standing up for female bathroom laws..good for you..

To answer your second question, I would first question your fascination with others genitals and urinating habits
 
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No. "Lgtg" and you still speak, lmao... A free country should mean I am free to do whatever I want (so long as it is not breaking the law or hurting others, blah blah), not people are free to discriminate against me.

You don't see the problem with comparing gay people to people with hygeine problems? Seems like you have a bigotry problem yourself.
No, I don't know the term.... I wrote that in my post. I don't use it, ever before, so but that doesn't make me a "bigot". LOL The comparison was for example...not to equate. That seems obvious. Sorry that you didn't get it. Cheap shot but your argument was not based on specific disagreement with any of my observations on freedom of association, or not to associate. And discrimination does not happen because happen because someone doesn't' want to associate with you. If that is the case I am sure that you do that every day yourself with people you choose to speak too, associate with, and the businesses you choose to go to or not. That is not illegal or wrong for you to make those personal choices in your life and your private business. Exactly as it would be and is wrong for others to be forced to associate with you.

And the freedom of all is to associate, or not, and not be forced to do so to make someone else feel "good". If a law was passed that only gay folks could do business with only other gays, would a gay person perhaps feel treated unfairly and not allowed their own freedom to choose whom they associated with? What happens when a private business, with religious owners, sues a gay couple for not giving them their business, even thought they had a better price, and better service offer with more than the gay owned or non religious business offered? That would be the exact same situation in reverse...that you are advocating for. And in your argument against the NC law, the gay couple would lose the lawsuit, have to do business with those they would prefer not to, and then not be free in their own lives to associate with those they choose to, or not, and not free to spend their own money as they saw fit.
 

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This thread smells like those shitty arguments that anti-gay marriage laws weren't discriminatory because neither men nor women were allowed to marry individuals of the same gender.

Wallow in that crap if you like, I've got better discussions to have. Laters.
 

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By the way, I consider myself lesbian or bisexual and have sometimes seen a girl I considered hot in a restroom. Should I be thrown out? Maybe I should be made to wear a pin, to let you all know I'm a danger to your children, because im attracted to the women who are in the restroom with me. Since we're basing whether or not trans people have basic human rights off of the fact that you think they're attracted to your ugly bigoted ass, I'm just wondering...
it is not a human right to harm others by actions in a public restroom. Your argument is fallacious and misguided in that you presuppose that just because your are woman, and a lesbian, don't make or act inappropriately in a ladies room which you have ever right to be, that an adult man/woman, who "self identifies as the opposite sex" (or male) by nothing more than their word that they are somehow entitled as a made up and absurd "human right" to impose themselves on every one else and for those that do evil and perverted use that as a possible excuse to bad behavior Feeling good is not a human right for anyone.
 

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You can't make an ought out of an is...
All these "if this happened, if that happened" scenarios from your own thought up nebulous universe..really do not matter..because they never happened..you made them up!
Religion has always been and will always be foisting its morals on others. That's part of its reason for being. If it didn't care what everyone else was doing in bed or what they were doing in the bathroom, or what females do with their bodies, what would religion be for, except another male dominated power trip, who attend circle jerk offs ?
 
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I won't revisit this thread. those that understand do, and those that don't will likely tune out reason. So write angry comments all you want and wait your time doing so. I'll never read them. But thanks for playing.
 

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it is not a human right to harm others by actions in a public restroom. Your argument is fallacious and misguided in that you presuppose that just because your are woman, and a lesbian, don't make or act inappropriately in a ladies room which you have ever right to be, that an adult man/woman, who "self identifies as the opposite sex" (or male) by nothing more than their word that they are somehow entitled as a made up and absurd "human right" to impose themselves on every one else and for those that do evil and perverted use that as a possible excuse to bad behavior Feeling good is not a human right for anyone.
Even as they recite the Lord's Prayer as they're taking a crap? Or saying the pledge of allegiance taking a piss?
 
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I won't revisit this thread. those that understand do, and those that don't will likely tune out reason. So write angry comments all you want and wait your time doing so. I'll never read them. But thanks for playing.
Don't forget to wash your hands
 
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And as far as bathrooms go...if you are a parent, there is no way on earth, even if you are gay yourself, or not, that you want any middle aged or younger or older man, just because he says he "identifies" as "female", with going in to the school girls bathroom, or mall female bathroom (on a typical Saturday) at the mall when it is filled with preteen girls, such as a daughter. That would allow open perversion....and be legal. All the great parents of the planet know this...whether they are straight or gay or bi.

And having pay "stalls" is simply not the same. Lots of bad things can, and have happened, and would continue to happen with perverts taking advantage of the situation by open stalls they "forgot" to shut the door too. And perverts that pray on children and the weak and alone, and even adults are all too real in society. Sadly so. And I absolutely know a gay parent who would be outraged to violence if their children, the boy or the girl, encountered someone who "self identified" as the other gender than their body parts showed and exposed themselves, even accidently to their kids. Being a good parent is not about being "tolerate" to harmful behavior toward their families.
I would say that your argument is weak....if there was one.

It may come as a shock to you but there are men who go into male restrooms and commit "perversions". Going by the way you see things all restrooms should be restricted then. If you have to relieve yourself do so at home where the chances of a stranger accosting you are nil.

Perhaps you should learn what discrimination is. It isn't the way you describe it. If you run a business it isn't your right to say that because you dislike a person's race, religion, or sexual identity that you can refuse them service. If you see nothing wrong with this then you might have preferred the Jim Crow era.
 

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Why? Julie, do you make a habit of going into stalls and checking the genital status of other women? And are you intelligent enough to realize that this law makes it so that trans men will have to use your bathroom? Aka there will be men, or at least to your bigoted self, girls who look very very much like men, in your bathroom? Congrats on that.
Julie is likely just worried about the competition. Her best days(if there were any)are behind her.
 

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Calling it bigotry is a little naive. It's complicated, and probably requires some legislation. All it takes is one lawsuit to run it up to the Supreme Court.
What is naive is thinking that this behavior can be excused or that it is reasonable.
 
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What is naive is thinking that this behavior can be excused or that it is reasonable.

So because it's your view and opinion, you believe it supercedes the rights of others? I'm not taking sides here, but do you truly not see any complications with this case? Hardly enough at this point to call it bigotry.
 

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So because it's your view and opinion, you believe it supercedes the rights of others? I'm not taking sides here, but do you truly not see any complications with this case? Hardly enough at this point to call it bigotry.
The only complication here is conservative/Christian hate driven by outdated and meaningless social attitudes left over from the iron age. It's nothing more than the usual attempt by the morally deficient to punish people for being born different.
 

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No, I don't know the term.... I wrote that in my post. I don't use it, ever before, so but that doesn't make me a "bigot". LOL The comparison was for example...not to equate. That seems obvious. Sorry that you didn't get it. Cheap shot but your argument was not based on specific disagreement with any of my observations on freedom of association, or not to associate. And discrimination does not happen because happen because someone doesn't' want to associate with you. If that is the case I am sure that you do that every day yourself with people you choose to speak too, associate with, and the businesses you choose to go to or not. That is not illegal or wrong for you to make those personal choices in your life and your private business. Exactly as it would be and is wrong for others to be forced to associate with you.

And the freedom of all is to associate, or not, and not be forced to do so to make someone else feel "good". If a law was passed that only gay folks could do business with only other gays, would a gay person perhaps feel treated unfairly and not allowed their own freedom to choose whom they associated with? What happens when a private business, with religious owners, sues a gay couple for not giving them their business, even thought they had a better price, and better service offer with more than the gay owned or non religious business offered? That would be the exact same situation in reverse...that you are advocating for. And in your argument against the NC law, the gay couple would lose the lawsuit, have to do business with those they would prefer not to, and then not be free in their own lives to associate with those they choose to, or not, and not free to spend their own money as they saw fit.

You are putting a lot of mud in the water. A situation is reverse is not the same thing as the situations you site. Gays have always done business with straight people, more than they have done so with gay people. Gay people may encourage other gay people to support a gay business but that is not calling for a boycott of straight owned business. These laws saying service can be refused for religious reasons are mere efforts to get around the fact that marriage equity exists in all 50 states. During the 60's many whites used religion as a reason not to serve blacks, or to treat them to inferior service. The cited many of the verses in the old testament as basis for this as well as the new. That era is over. If you are selling a house you cannot refuse to sell it to a person of a different race. The law merely states that all you have a right to care about in that transaction is that you got paid a fair, market price for your house. The same logic applies to wedding cakes. If you are in the wedding cake business it is not your concern that you don't approve of who is getting married. Your only concern is do you sell a cake at a fair price? You would refuse a gay couple a cake, but sell a Republican whore monger like Newt Gingrich one for his fourth wedding. Where is your religion there? You are hiding behind your so called religious rights to express hate and not appear to be the raging homophobic ass you really are.

The rest room issue is a little different, not much. All public restrooms usually have lockable stalls. When someone goes in to one, locking the door gives you all the privacy one needs to keep from flashing one's privates to anyone who is not actively looking. A person who is transgender is not someone who gets an itch to go see the opposite sex restroom. It is one who really believes that 24 / 7 their body does not fit who they really are. It is not new, it is however the latest frontier in human equity. The only problems I have ever encountered with restroom crimes were so called straight men acting in an inappropriate manner. The one crime I have first hand knowledge of cannot be described in this forum, but it involves heterosexuals and had nothing to do with gender fluidity.

The first amendment says the government will not establish a religion, and that has been interpreted legally by courts, mainly the SCOTUS that religious beliefs should not trump civil law - period. This so called religious bullshit and voodoo is nothing more than a feeble attempt to keep sexual minorities as second class citizens. It is not about fighting so called political correctness, or re-establishing god or any of that other lame bat shit crazy smoke that is being used to muddy the waters. Rant all you want, eventually the courts will strike this down, and in the meantime states will find that they will suffer economically because quality people and companies will not want to be associated with it.

Simple math lesson. 4 minus 3 equals one. Revering it is actually different. 3 minus 4 equal minus one. Different result. Same thing applies to your logic too.

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What a load of misinformation. There has NEVER been a crime where a "Trans" person used the appropriate bathroom for their gender expression. View attachment 466226

Actually, this person looks like Miss Lamb my 4th grade teacher - right down to the beard.
 

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No. "Lgtg" and you still speak, lmao... A free country should mean I am free to do whatever I want (so long as it is not breaking the law or hurting others, blah blah), not people are free to discriminate against me.

You don't see the problem with comparing gay people to people with hygeine problems? Seems like you have a bigotry problem yourself.

Two question: 1.) You yourself say you can do whatever you want "so long as it is not breaking the law." So now that the NC statute is a LAW, I don't understand your point? To use the "wrong" bathroom is "breaking the law, so are you speaking for or against the statute?

2.) More generally for everyone, as a man, I'm not "hurting anyone" when if I use a women's restroom. Is it my "right" to do so?

Overall, I disagree with the law, I think the hyperbolic fears or guys just using women's restrooms is unfounded, BUT the law would appear to allow any male to use a female's bathroom and say "It's okay, I'm identifying as a female."

I'm still against it