Now that we finally have an election in UK

[Sergeant_Torpedo]

PS. the organ grinders' monkeys soon backed off when they realized I was fitter than they, and a lot more intelligent.

 

[Drifterwood]

Good on you Sarge.

Do you have a plan to avoid being fucked by these wankers?

 

[dandelion]

I do. Its called electoral reform. Vote for it, which means vote lib dem because theyre the only ones who will. Once the system is reformed then people who disagree with thoose already in parliament stand a fair chance of being elected.

It pretty outrageous that mainstream parties object to BNP and UKIP on the grounds their policies are unacceptable. The main reason they exist is because the mainstreamers ignore moderate requests to do something about the issues the fringe parties take up. They do so secure in the knowledge that real people cannot get them out of parliament. If there was a real way to do this, then they would be forced to listen to people. Which of course is anathema to them and apparently not what parliament is for.

 

[Drifterwood]

The Lib Dem's slogan should have been: -

Trust your judgement.

 

[Jason]

Gordon Brown looks like the walking dead. Specifically he looks drugged.

Diet notes that are being circulated to places he visits apparently give instructions that there should be none of a long list of very specific foods, things like avocados, broad beans, liver, chianti-style wines. The list corresponds with foods which must not be taken by people on Mono-amine Oxidase Inhibitors - powerful drugs used to treat (severe) depression and OCD. The combination of MAOIs and certain foods is frequently lethal and people taking them must be very careful of their diet. MAOIs are rarely used, basically only used when everything else has failed.

I've every sympathy for someone with depression. But there are some jobs a person with (severe) depression should not do. Being PM with his finger on the nuclear trigger is one of them.

 

[dandelion]

So now we are so desperate we are attacking the mans health? How many strokes/ whatever did churchill have while in office?

 

[D_Andreas Sukov]

Gordon Brown looks like the walking dead. Specifically he looks drugged.

Diet notes that are being circulated to places he visits apparently give instructions that there should be none of a long list of very specific foods, things like avocados, broad beans, liver, chianti-style wines. The list corresponds with foods which must not be taken by people on Mono-amine Oxidase Inhibitors - powerful drugs used to treat (severe) depression and OCD. The combination of MAOIs and certain foods is frequently lethal and people taking them must be very careful of their diet. MAOIs are rarely used, basically only used when everything else has failed.

I've every sympathy for someone with depression. But there are some jobs a person with (severe) depression should not do. Being PM with his finger on the nuclear trigger is one of them.

Your'e disgusting. What a small minded attempt to belittle a man. Thought the polls were in your favour? You seem more desperate than hom.

 

[Drifterwood]

What a small minded attempt to belittle a man. Thought the polls were in your favour? You seem more desperate than hom.

It is a fair question though to ask whether GB, the man, really wants this job. I have always felt him to be fundamentally decent, but he s a very complex man, not like TB at all.

 

[dandelion]

People who argue for the current system of election to the commons say its good because you get a direct link between the man and his voters. If they dont like him personally, they can chuck him out. Nice idea, but the tail wags the dog. Few people vote because they like one particular candidate personally. They vote for the party as whole. This makes a nonsense of this so called benefit of the system, because there is no real choice. I find the ameican primary system rather wierd, but I suppose the advantage is to have pre-selection to choose between potential candidates. The disadvantage is still that an outsider cannot enter the race. So i want proportional representation, so that an individual really can stand and get sufficient support to deserve and receive a place in parliament.

Ive come round to the idea of having true PR for the lords, with staggered rolling elections as in the US so that a proportion of the house is elected each year and it keeps up to date with public opinion. Time it the same as the local elections and there arent any extra elections to arrange. Fixed terms with no political manipulation of dates.

Then those who want a local man to complain to can have constituency elections for the commons, but using a transferable vote system where people express on the ballot a 1,2,3 choice. Dont have to, votes just marked the old way with one X would still count, but not be transferred on should their choice get knocked out early.

The whole point is to set up two centres of power which represent different things and would not automatically agree. Force politicians to compromise and listen to outsiders. Its nonsense to say that if 5% voted BNP and they had a block of members, that they could dictate government policy. They coulkd only do so if more moderate members sit on their hands and let them.
Do we want anyone as an MP who cannot accept the realities that only a small proportion of voters support them and thus they must come to terms with the representatives of other groups?

So vote lib dem for reform. (or as the case may be locally, vote tactically for whichever candidate is most likely to produce a hung parliament, which probably amounts to against conservative )