NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

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The "Girls" in the 7 Diamond club earned $31,000 a day. We have just spent 20 minutes in chat trying to figure out what one woman does for that much money that doesn't involve livestock and can't think of a single thing. :confused:

That's... it takes them less than a week to make more than I do in a year. For sex. I must find out their secret techniques. Then I will introduce these pricey new concepts to the 5 tops in LA and make... oh, fuck it. :frown1:
 

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The "Girls" in the 7 Diamond club earned $31,000 a day. We have just spent 20 minutes in chat trying to figure out what one woman does for that much money that doesn't involve livestock and can't think of a single thing. :confused:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! 31 K a day for being a prostitute?!!!!!!

I guess that is probably because the clientele is all high-profile and they get paid to keeps their yaps shut (except during oral :biggrin1:)
 

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Breaking news from The New York Rag (a.k.a. The NY Post) at their website with a byline from the not so dashing Freddie Dicker-

From Breaking News | Headline News | Current - New York Post
By FREDRIC U. DICKER, STATE EDITOR


March 12, 2008 -- Posted at 8:38 a.m.


Gov. Eliot Spitzer has decided to resign and will begin notifying top state officials of his decision just after 9 a.m., The Post has learned.
Word began circulating of his decision in state political circles just minutes ago, which came after what one source called "an agonizing night," as the governor's wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, and the governor's lawyers went over a possible plea deal offered by federal prosecutors, sources told The Post.
Lt. Gov. David Paterson, who has remained at his suburban Albany home for the past three days, was expected to be notified of Spiter's decision within the hour. Sources said Paterson has told friends that if he does become governor, he would like Sptizer to hold off his resignation until Monday to give him enough time to prepare for a transition.
 

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Spitzer is resigning as I write this. I'm disappointed that it took him so long to make this announcement; he should have resigned yesterday.

Still, I'm glad he resigned.
 

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The "Girls" in the 7 Diamond club earned $31,000 a day. We have just spent 20 minutes in chat trying to figure out what one woman does for that much money that doesn't involve livestock and can't think of a single thing. :confused:

:eek:

Forget about being an IT professional - how do I get a job in the 7 Diamond club?! :biggrin1:
 

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Eh, personally this is such a non issue. I do not care if he was involved with a prostitute or anyone else, all I care about is his ability to govern. He shouldn't step down or attend rehab, maybe just remind everyone of lucy mercer, jfk, eisenhower, grover cleveland, et. al.
Normally I would agree but since he made such a show of cracking down on prostitution rings, it's the Jimmy Swaggart show all over again. Indulging in secret what you claim is wrong or repulsive.

Side note, I hate when politicians trot out the wife for a show of support during their sex scandals. Spitzer"s wife, [SIZE=-1]McGreevey's wife, Hillary Clinton, they must be going through a period of shock, but instead of a moment to consider what just happened, they're forced to face the media. Ugh.
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Who says they're forced to do anything? They could choose to leave their husbands to fend for themselves in the media glare. Maybe they should.
 

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Call me a cynical but the timing of this information being given to the press seems to be strategic.
It came at the worst possible time for the Clintion camp and has really hurt her chances.
It would be intresting to see when this investigation took place and if there was lag time between then and the press release.
 

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Call me a cynical but the timing of this information being given to the press seems to be strategic.
It came at the worst possible time for the Clintion camp and has really hurt her chances.
It would be intresting to see when this investigation took place and if there was lag time between then and the press release.

I read the criminal complaint today... it's online on CNN and it's 55 pages long. Basically the FEDS were targeting this Emperor's VIP Club because it was an international prostitution ring. They had a confidential source that was a former prostitute for them in 2006. For her cooperation she is given immunity from prosecution.

The Emperor's club set up 2 phony accounts under phony business names, operating under names of QAT international or some other "QAT" title. Examination of the financial records show between the 2 accounts they have collected 1 million dollars from clients in 3 years. They have been investigating this escort service and the outreach of it - internationally, UK, Vienna, and within the US (LA, NY, DC, Miami) since October 2007.

Governor Spitzer was caught up in an operation targeting the business itself as a result of the investigation concurrently... OR the bank notified the treasury department of his moving large sums of money around and that launched the investigation on the Escort Business itself.

He was one of 10 clients in the complaint. They obtained wiretaps on the service and he was caught on them. The wire tap has him on record verifying that he still had a 400 credit from the last time. He wanted to make an appointment in DC. The service balked because they traditionally want 50 percent of fee deposited upfront. They also have wire taps of cell phones and text messages of the escort service owners talking about how Client 9 (Governor Spitzer) doesn't use traditional wire transfer. He sends a package with cash in it. The day prior to the appt. they were waiting to get his package in the mail. It got there at the last minute. She was supposed to leave on a train at 4:45pm from NY. His package did not arrive until 4:21pm. So they had her leave on a later train at 5:29pm to DC.

On wire they have him talking about paying for the train ticket, cab fare, hotel room and the session was for 4 hours. His total was 3,721 dollars. They asked if he could give more to the prostitute "Kristen" when she was there so they could assure he had a credit to prevent the same situation from happening. He thought his balance was 2600 (400 credit from the last time). The booking person "lewis" could not verify the 400 credit. He said he could give Kristen 3600 so he had a 1000 dollar credit for next time (covering the deposit, avoiding the scramble to send money by mail). They said to make 1500. He didn't know if there was machine that he could come up with that kind of money.

Package (payment) arrived. She got to DC. Balance was 2721. When he got to the room, Kristen would call lewis and that's when the 4 hours would begin. So the fee was 750 for 4 hours. At the end Kristen collected 4300 dollars from Client 9 (Governor Spitzer) 1500 as the credit. The business didn't want to adopt this business model where they took advanced payments, but would make an exception to avoid the last minute shenanigans in the mail from the last time.

There were 9 other clients in the investigation 10 total, so it was 5 months and the governor was just one of 10. He is high profile however. He has power to pardon criminals and in his DA career he prosecuted prostitution rings and white collar wall street crime.

The US attorneys office is not doing any plea agreement w/ him. They are not going after the sex of it, they are going after the money that he was laundering money to an illegal business across state lines. (Irony, the next day after his interlude Gov. Spitzer was in DC talking about online business, requiring that NY consumers pay a NY state tax, the current system relies on the honor system to report it on their income taxes. Only in his case, he's not reporting taxes on a service that wasn't legal). Keep in mind, his last interlude was less than 4 weeks ago Which the criminal complaint and the wire taps

As far as Hillary being hurt by it. Not likely.

New York has already had their primary, and she won. At best, she lost 1 guaranteed superdelegate vote from Spitzer. Though he was reluctant to support her for her bid for president, because she didn't support his run for Governor in 2006, but eventually relented. So I don't see a lot of love loss to behonest. So both Obama and Hillary can talk to governor patterson to get his pledge vote.

I don't see this scandal hurting her that much - I mean her campaign has done a piss poor job to plan her being contested this far out...they all assumed it would be locked in after Super Tuesday.

Though when you read the complaint. They weren't targeting the governor. They were targeting the business and they found him. The bank also reported him moving around his bank accounts.

New york has changed it's banking laws since 9/11, they are flagging accounts that appear to move larger sums of money, structured in smaller payments. So if you're trying to hide 10,000 movement of money and break it up in (3) payments of 3.3K each in 3 day period, it will flag your file and they will investigate if you're trying to hide a 10K flag of money for an illegal purpose.

It's not politically motivated, it's not anti-semitic. If you wanted to reach for a conspiracy in this, he didn't make any friends on Wall street, he prosecuted white collar crime, investors that defrauded share-holders, etc. So it's likely that money people were scrutinizing him, but it appears the FEDS were investigating this Escort service for some time. Given that the governor has a law license and took steps to mask his activities, they have to pursue it.

I'll be amazed if they don't drop charges. The complaint is pretty daming.
 

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I read the criminal complaint today... it's online on CNN and it's 55 pages long. Basically the FEDS were targeting this Emperor's VIP Club bec....

I'll be amazed if they don't drop charges. The complaint is pretty daming.

Thank you... this was a fantastic post.

I think/believe this is clearly a federal crime now via the interstate matter of monies.

Also, this behavior... yeah, there's a private life, and it shouldn't matter. But engaging in this sort of behavior can lead someone to immense blackmail/underhanded deals. The act is also illegal as well, whether right or wrong.

Being on the finance side, Spitzer was a welcome relief... however, he got very carried away, and got business millions... and although some of it for the benefit, much of it was macho grandstanding.

Curious... I should count the

- percentage of Sen. Craig articles, that reminded us he is a Republican
- percentage of Gov Spitzer articles, that remind us he is a Democratic.


me thinks the latter is clearly lower... but just my opinion/observation.
 

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Call me a cynical but the timing of this information being given to the press seems to be strategic.
It came at the worst possible time for the Clintion camp and has really hurt her chances.
It would be intresting to see when this investigation took place and if there was lag time between then and the press release.

OK, you're a cynical.


you asked us to ;-)
 

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"Spitzer prosecuted at least two prostitution rings when he ran the state's organized crime task force, the New York Times said in its article.

The paper said Spitzer "spoke with revulsion and anger" after announcing the arrest of 16 people for running what the paper termed a high-end prostitution ring in Staten Island."

Dude is already a bit f'd in the head, so he might qualify for what Freud called reaction formation. It's typically associated by obsessive behavior, for example someone with this who speaks out against homosexuality doesn't tend to try it here and there, they engage whenever/wherever they can.

What also comes to mind is Pete Townshend of The Who, and Bernie Ward (an ultra liberal, finger-pointing talk show host, whom is very Christian)... they were amidst projects to research/fight child pornography... yet... lo and behold (though, me thinks Pete paid his way out, unfortunately... Bernie is rotting in a cell, like he should).
 

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Spitzer is resigning as I write this. I'm disappointed that it took him so long to make this announcement; he should have resigned yesterday.
Still, I'm glad he resigned.
As am I. Maybe resigning is like pulling off a band-aid. You know you have to, but you don't want to, so you put it off as long as you possibly can. :confused:

Thought about Marion Barry's famous phrase when he was caught:

"Bitch, set me up" :rofl:
:biggrin1: Truer words were never spoken.

Normally I would agree but since he made such a show of cracking down on prostitution rings, it's the Jimmy Swaggart show all over again. Indulging in secret what you claim is wrong or repulsive.
BINGO! This would have been news worthy anyway; but his stance on prostitution is what really brought out the media wolves.

Who says they're forced to do anything? They could choose to leave their husbands to fend for themselves in the media glare. Maybe they should.
I dunno I think it's part of the pre-nup when you marry a politician. After all, how often do you see them getting divorced in office? Maybe it's part of the eventual divorce deal, "stand by me until I am out of office and I will give you anything you want." Anything being relative of course, i.e. the house in the Hamptons, sole custody of children, a beloved family pet, etc.

His wife is probably angry and devastated; but it's his 3 daughters I feel the most sorry for as they are still in school. They are 14, 16, and 18 years of age. Can you imagine what lunch, gym, and just walking down the halls are like for them this week. :redface: I'm sure it ain't pretty. :frown1:

Can we say therapy? Because these girls are gonna need it!
The first man every girl loves and trusts is daddy. If daddy cheats on mommy how do you think that colors their feelings about any future relationships with men?



 

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After all, how often do you see them getting divorced in office? Maybe it's part of the eventual divorce deal, "stand by me until I am out of office and I will give you anything you want."

Interesting. What do you think Bill promised Hillary... me thinks the Presidency. I'm still betting that if she doesn't get the nomination or presidency they are divorced soon thereafter.

His wife is probably angry and devastated; but it's his 3 daughters I feel the most sorry for as they are still in school. They are 14, 16, and 18 years of age. Can you imagine what lunch, gym, and just walking down the halls are like for them this week. :redface: I'm sure it ain't pretty. :frown1:

Yeah, well put. That does suck. This is serious hookers, not a tryst with some office aide. Yikes.

But if it's true what we're seeing that this is 6-10 years going on. Come on... this reeks of Hillary and her chronic philandering husband... then staring in the camera, and lying just like her hubby, saying it was a witchunt and Bill's been faithful and.... oh wait, I don't think she ever defended his fidelity (scratches chin).

I think Spitzer was caught red-handed by the wifey once (if not more) before. She's a very intelligent woman from what I know.
 

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Normally I would agree but since he made such a show of cracking down on prostitution rings, it's the Jimmy Swaggart show all over again. Indulging in secret what you claim is wrong or repulsive.


Who says they're forced to do anything? They could choose to leave their husbands to fend for themselves in the media glare. Maybe they should.
Perhaps they should.
However, for some of these woman coercion is involved. McGreevey's wife discussed how her husband was such a convincing and commanding speaker that she thought it was her duty to stand by him. Later, it occurred to her how humiliating the press conference was, but at the time, she was not in a mind-set to defend, and her husband, wanting to project the right image, was not offering help.

Arianna Huffington comes to mind as a woman who did leave. Can’t think of many others. Donna Hanover, maybe? Gavin Newsom’s wife? Most of these women know their roles as a political wife and play them accordingly. It is pretty much the same thing in the military. If you divorce or have an out of control family, it seems like you do not have the ability to command. many of these guys marry the type of woman who would be least likely to leave or question their actions. Other wives are more savvy and won't leave for whatever reason, perhaps power.
 

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Perhaps they should.
However, for some of these woman coercion is involved. McGreevey's wife discussed how her husband was such a convincing and commanding speaker that she thought it was her duty to stand by him. Later, it occurred to her how humiliating the press conference was, but at the time, she was not in a mind-set to defend, and her husband, wanting to project the right image, was not offering help.

Arianna Huffington comes to mind as a woman who did leave. Can’t think of many others. Donna Hanover, maybe? Gavin Newsom’s wife? Most of these women know their roles as a political wife and play them accordingly. It is pretty much the same thing in the military. If you divorce or have an out of control family, it seems like you do not have the ability to command. many of these guys marry the type of woman who would be least likely to leave or question their actions. Other wives are more savvy and won't leave for whatever reason, perhaps power.

She should leave him, get a PR firm to position it... wait a bit, then run for governor of NY. She's just like him... in terms of background and the like.

Talk about burn...