Obama and the Dems said they envision Eliminating Private Insurance...Lest We Forget

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  1. Trinity

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    For all who witnessed the dog and pony show on Thursday that was Obama's wasted effort at reaching across the aisle to Republicans to get on board with either the House Bill or the Senate Bill or his second more expensive attempt at a Proposal that hasn't even been costed by the CBO...:rolleyes:

    Remember what Obama and the Dems said from the beginning. Their 2700 page bill is still a Government Take Over and should be killed so that they can start over. Small bills in areas that all agree on should be worked on.

    YouTube - SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance
     
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    Well you've got to start somewhere. He's right, it may take ten or twenty years.
     
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    I'm not even going to take the bait.
     
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    How the f do you equate employer-provided insurance (which has been a disastrously moronic idea, the result of a post-WWII skew in the tax code) with private insurance? They're not the same thing.

    It makes no sense to link employment with health coverage. It inhibits entrepreneurship and job mobility. It conceals the true cost of coverage. It fragments the US risk pool and unnecessarily skews pricing and coverage in the individual market.

    Switzerland, as an example, has exclusively private-supplied insurance. It's not linked to one's employment status, but it is universal. Thus, they have done exactly what Obama is talking about while preserving the private insurance market. The government of Switzerland doesn't provide or even offer healthcare to its citizens.
     
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    Trinity, when you lie like this, you're not creating an alternate perspective worthy of the same respect as the perspective you oppose. No, you're just lying.

    Moderators, this thread should be closed. It's pure trolling.
     
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    That describes the troll in a nutshell... and it'll never stop. Please, take one of HG's pills, as distributed by the lovely maxcok.
     
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    How can quoting someone being lying? Obama and Dems words are quoted and a link is provided from Youtube. :rolleyes:
     
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    LYING:Their 2700 page bill is still a Government Take Over

    go back to your tea party.
     
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    You are confusing yourself.

    You don't quite understand what you've written. Switzerland doesn't have a government run system. Obama and the Dems were all about that...(some are still demanding it)

    In fact, from the beginning, that is what Obama was ALL about from the quotes and the Youtube link. :rolleyes: A Government Run System. He in fact stated more than once he was in favor of a single payer universal system.

    Do you have a Youtube link with Mr. Obama explaining what healthcare coverage could be linked to besides something single payer and government run? :rolleyes:

    The Youtube link is pretty clear: Obama was for single payer government run universal healthcare which is NOT the same as what Switzerland has.

    Obama and the Dems backed off the government run public option but left the government control so that they could, as Barney Frank stated eventually get to single payer government run universal healthcare. Obama envisioned phasing out employer coverage but in favor of what? Single Payer Government Run Universal Healthcare NOT Private Universal Insurance.

    Don't be fooled.
     
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    ^ If you're that deluded, you might want to consider seeing a shrink... Just saying.


    Yeah, it's a bunch of clips snipped together to redefine what he said in a completely different way... It's a bald faced LIE, and you know it is.
     
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    You appear to be the one deluded. Mr. Obama and the Dems made the statements and no one is lying on them. :rolleyes:
     
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    Why should congress work on "Small bills in areas that all agree on"?? Remembering from High School Civics, Majority Rules.
     
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    Just remember, these are your words, and I provided links to your words... Thus, according to your own logic, what I said is truthful, accurate and actionable.

    http://www.lpsg.org/170884-democratic-sen-evan-bayh-retires.html
    http://www.lpsg.org/171506-jobless-claims-rise-unemployment-crisis.html
    http://www.lpsg.org/168271-we-support-cbs-airing-qbs.html
    http://www.lpsg.org/170830-two-vps-underwear-shoe-acts.html
     
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    Apparently, the concept of average YouTube video editing and splicing eludes our beloved forum troll. And to think I used to argue with such a nincompoop? So ignorant, it doesn't even know iMovie. Wow! :rolleyes:
     
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    Not all of us use Macs; there is plenty of capable video-editing software for Windows and Linux.
     
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    True... but that's precisely the point.
    Anyone can do a hack & slash job of random video clips, put in some random text and overlay some spooky sound FX these days. The average user, or at least ones with a brain (unlike our beloved forum troll), can tell the differences between legit video captures and edits.

    Of course, when it comes to Trinsanity as long as any piece of media says "OBAMA BAD" it will finger itself profusely over it. I'm sure if someone dubbed Bachmann's voice crying about death panels over Smurfette, the "entity" would try to use it as a source of political legitimacy. :rolleyes:
     
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