Obama = any port in a storm?

Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by faceking, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. faceking

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    Hardcore party Democrats... what's the EXACT infatuation with Barry? Have you been so angry with Bush for the last 5 years, and bitter over Kerry losing Ohio... that you'll take anything? After all, I've yet to really see much rhetoric on plans and courses of action from Barry and his minions... vs blather on how bad things are, and so forth.

    Seriously, can ANYONE... AAAAAAAAAAANYONE tell me what Barry's plans for:

    - lower gas prices (this I'd love to see, since we've got decades of Capitol Hill posturizing to bring big oil up on the hill for the seminal slap on the wrist)
    - the economy? (unemployment is lower the the average of the 90s, 80s, and 70s. Does ol' Barrah have a plan for Internet 2.0???
    - Iraq... he going to pull out, and waste years, and lives, and $$$ of progress. Will he stay true to his convictions, and pull out of Germany, South Korea, and Cuba???
    - "reaching across the aisle" - the most liberal senator there is, is somehow going to find in his heart of hearts to
    - illegal immigration?
    - NAFTA?
    - gay marriage?
    - the fact that even though he's a junior senator, he's had more pork barrel spending than McCain's entire career?

    I'm sure someone is going to cut and paste some responses, which is fine...


    I don't mind difference of opinion, I just want to see the factual knowledge of their flavor of the day.

    Is this REALLY the Democrat's first choice? Who would you really rather have?

    I admire the backing and support, yet I scoff at the ability to take second-best to find any port in a storm...

    I will go on record... if Barry wins... 2012 will be a landslide in both Congress and the White House... so ardent lefties better hope the Ginsbergs croak... cause that's all you'll get out of the next 4 years.
     
  2. Pendlum

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    I'm not a hardcore democrat or whatever, but I just felt like saying that I don't think anyone can do anything about gas prices, unless we start stealing a lot of oil. Politicians, in my opinion, use big oil to bolster their popularity with the working man and such by promising inquiries. When in reality they do make a lot of money, but their margin of profit is lower than say, Coca Cola and Starbucks per gallon. Taxing gas doesn't help with your gas prices, but people like the thought of sticking it to big oil and lowering their profits (while higher taxes on gas result in higher gas prices). Anyway yeah, just felt like saying that.
     
  3. Industrialsize

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    I can say one thing for certain, John Sidney McCain should be very afraid of the Obama campaign.......underestimate this "inadequate black man" at your own peril.
     
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  4. D_Masteur Baetes

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    Someone, please, explain to me what's different about Obama and how he is going to make the US better? Seems like he is the same old, same old...just in a different package with much slicker tactics and talk! Oh how we need another Teddy Roosevelt!!!
     
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    A few weeks ago, I remember someone posting a PDF of Obama's stance and plans for all the major issues from the economy, to healthcare, to Iraq. Whoever it was may still have it. Or you could just look these things up.
     
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    what does it matter either way what he tells us his plans are...?

    when was the last time any president actually followed through on half the shit they preached to us in the 2 years of their campaign..?

    talk is cheap
     
  7. midlifebear

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    Actually, I'd rather have another Truman in the White House. As for the Democrats, I have no idea how much they "hate" Bush. I'm steadfastly Independent. But I fail to understand Faceking's "What does Obama stand for?" view of the world. I'm amused that he listed "Gay Marriage" as an issue. But I can't tell if (Faceking) is for it or against it. If he's against it I suspect he would have been against equal rights, anti segregation, and abolitionists. But hey, I really can't say. From most of his posts since I joined last November I sort of gather he's just another scared white man who only feels comfortable lording his views over others. But I'm not claiming that he is. All we know is that he's scared of Hillary, possibly lives somewhere in Northern California, is possibly 37, 100% straight, and has made 3,050 posts (from which I personally surmise that he doesn't have much of a life).

    Anyone notice that the Congressional Dining Room has "officially" changed the ludicrous and childish "Freedom Fries" back to just plain old "fries" on their menu? As for Democrats being "angry" with Bush, the Republicans are doing a great job of distancing themselves from Dub-Ya as well, not unlike rats leaving a sinking ship -- albeit a bit too late. I'm no rocket scientist, but I think it's rather obvious you're a loser president when none of your few domestic programs have not proven to engendered a positive benefit for the citizens of the USA (No child left where?) and your foreign policy has alienated a sizable number of members from your own party -- not to mention the rest of the world.

    I respect McCain's sacrifice as a prisoner of war, but the bits and bites I hear him speak as I live comfortably (and economically secure) out of USA come across as "hate politics" as usual. McCain is just fine where he is, in the Senate. I'm certain the Republican machine will "discover" that Obama's grandmother was a member of the Socialist Workers Party, only wore red dresses, and was a double agent for the former Soviet Union. I'm just waiting for the real campaigning to begin so we can hear the "speed boat" boys make up lies and chum for the uneducated, white, male, toothless voters to drop their squirrel meat and run to the polls because they've been told their right to bear arms (those attached to their bodies as well fire arms) is in jeopardy.

    Sheesh!
     
  8. D_Masteur Baetes

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    Well, if Obama does get elected, it won't be too bad for me. At least I'll still be able to cling to my guns and religion..... :tongue:
     
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    I'll have to go out and get me a Desert Eagle and then start going to church again.
     
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