D_Gunther Snotpole
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No matter what else is true, it's always going to be a good thing if the vote tally for the Green Party goes up.
If I can't easily choose between the leading candidates, I vote Green.
Have probably voted Green half the time over the past decade.
No surprise here. I have known that BoiBama is an idiot since the day he sashayed onto the scene.
Huck, your entry here reminded me of an earlier exchange we had on 9/02 when I was defending/criticizing the Great Conciliator in advance of the midterm elections, but still giving him some (hopeful) benefit of doubt. Edited to the last two paragraphs, it ends with some prescient words:
Well, I've clearly reached my tipping point. If want to join us, I can put you up.
> Viva la revolution!!!
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Yes, we've been waiting for you to show up and do your drive-by troll duty.
No one is saying he's an 'idiot'. The man's intelligence is not in question here, though I'm sure the obvious points of the analysis are far too nuanced for your prejudiced mind to comprehend, 'idiot'.
Since you never have anything of any substance to contribute to this forum, but only hurl turd bombs at "Boi" Obama, why don't you just 'sashay' your little racist ass right out of here once and for all.
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BTW, I'm glad you've come over to my side. Welcome to the Disillusioned Club :wink:
The Democrats, as usual, should have dealt with this tax cut for the wealthy long before the mid-terms as mentioned. The Republicans know how to cram something do your throat when they hold the reigns of power. And they don't give a RAT's ASS what the prevailing winds are or what the latest polls show. This is what we want and we have the power to get it. Fuck you and fuck the polls!!
Though I would never put you in the same sad universe as the lurker, you might want to do a little study in nuance yourself. I haven't come over to any "side", yours or anyone else's. You should know by now I am an independent thinker, and I've been as objectively critical as I have been supportive of the president since I first joined this forum a year ago. If that's not clear, feel free to check my post history. In other words, equal parts hopeful, guardedly optimistic, skeptical, and disillusioned all along. Coincidentally, that post of mine I quoted was addressed to you in case you didn't notice. It contains quite a bit of thoughtful analysis, all of which I still stand behind, and a great deal of nuanced opinion.
D_Gunther Snotpole
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Oh hell, max ... as long as there's a little single malt, you can count me in.
I'll arrive by Greyhound on the 14th ... sound and fury, and Rubinstein CDs, in tow.
Right, that's it. :rolleyes2: You know, if everyone were as impulsive and reactionary as you, and sadly too many voters are, the Republicans would have taken over the Senate and have an even huger majority in the House. Thankfully there are still a few people with their wits about them.AH ok. You wish to save face. I get it
Excellent. I'll tune up the pickup and wind up the old Victrola.
You can play CD's on a Victrola, right?
Six of one, half dozen of the other, as they say.
On the one hand, the economy wouldn't be well-served right now to take more money out of people's paychecks. On the other hand -- as has been true for the last 25 years -- not a single taxpayer in this country deserves a tax cut as long as there is a multi-trillion dollar debt to pay off. None. As long as people expect the government to provide more than they're willing to pay for, then they DON'T deserve to keep more of their own money.
The most frustrating part of the whole thing is not that we're using deficit spending during an economic downturn, but that we never made the effort to run a surplus when the economy was doing better. It's the last nine years of borrowing to finance wars and tax cuts for people who don't need them that's really hurting us now.
On the one hand, the economy wouldn't be well-served right now to take more money out of people's paychecks. On the other hand -- as has been true for the last 25 years -- not a single taxpayer in this country deserves a tax cut as long as there is a multi-trillion dollar debt to pay off. None. As long as people expect the government to provide more than they're willing to pay for, then they DON'T deserve to keep more of their own money.
The most frustrating part of the whole thing is not that we're using deficit spending during an economic downturn, but that we never made the effort to run a surplus when the economy was doing better. It's the last nine years of borrowing to finance wars and tax cuts for people who don't need them that's really hurting us now.
in the uk that would be a typical lib dem voter.
I get an interesting perspective on the US system of government from the posts on here. It is the system which the founding fathers designed, and does what they wanted, which is to say creates deadlock. I get the impression the left (so called) in the US is in european terms at best centre and probably 'right'. The republicans come across as traditional landed gentry. The tea party is a protest group which somehow has settled on the right, but is hardly naturally at home there. It has just been hijacked. The democrats seem to me to be naturally alienating any voters who might be on the left because they simply arent a left leaning party. Yet the fact they have a large representation in government gives the impression they are wielding power.
Well, what do I know? Maybe the US has the government it wants, which spends on an army rather than a medical service. I find it extremely uncomfortable that they have dragged europe and particularly the UK into this mess, but maybe if the body count and national debt gets big enough they may rethink.
By now, it is obvious to all that you SO want me. Seriously, you think Obama is swell. I think he's an idiot. We disagree and that's not a valid reason for you to personally attack moi.
SilverTrain
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Interesting, thoughtful observations.
The idea was not to create deadlock, but to have checks and balances so that no one arm of the government could garner too much power, at the expense of the others.
The left-right notions are about right. Although, obviously there aren't that many who are actually "landed gentry." But perhaps a great many who fancy themselves as such.
The Tea Party seems to me to be a militant far-right group who think they are "conservative", but are really just militantly mean-spirited, selfish, and bigoted.
I don't think we have the government we want (but one we surely deserve). Many of us would like to take more from defense and put it into health and other services. And many would like to do the reverse.
As to dragging Europe down: Is the U.S. set to be dragged into Europe's financial troubles? Euro soars amid claims America will support IMF bailout | Mail Online :tongue:
D_Gunther Snotpole
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I don't see why not, max.
We'll probably be distracted anyway.
I can only assume you're right.
I, btw, am a Canadian. We have a Green Party. Not doing too well, but it exists.
I think they would vomit if they saw the current political situation in the U.S.
I think what you say about the distribution of parties left/right is correct, though I don't understand why you don't think the Tea Party is naturally rightist.
Well, those Lefties have nowhere else to go.
I think that the American populace is amazingly right-wing at the moment, and that the political pendulum swings far more widely here than in most countries.
The real problem with the Dems is that they don't seem to have the courage of their convictions. They don't have any spine.
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