Obama continues to be a terrible president

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Last time I heard, Obama was still giving at least lip service to ending the tax cuts for the highest earners.

So you think the Republicans are totally bluffing, and are just taking it further down to the wire to see if they can extract anything with their scare tactics?

I appreciate the perspective of your analysis, sinwin. It certainly makes the president look insane, unless he genuinely is that big a debt hawk.

Interestingly enough, a few weeks ago I read an interview with David Stockman, of all people, who argued that the only way out of our mess is to rescind ALL of the Bush tax cuts. Its seems though like the mofo Bush knew what he was doing by cutting or eliminating income taxes at the lower end of the income scale, which makes any rescinsion of the cuts politically difficult, if not impossible.

If you've been paying attention to what Obama has been saying, it's clear that ending the Bush/Obama tax cuts for the wealthy is something that's completely off the table. At this point they've retreated to maybe closing a few minor tax loopholes.
 
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Isn't California on the verge of bankruptcy?

The GDP of California is 1/2 of Texas. And with over 12 million more residents, the monetary GSP is less than 800,000$.

Maybe you should know what you're talking about before you talk shit.

Um, no.

California shows as having a $1.9 trillion GDP in 2010, while that of Texas is $1.21 trillion.

http://www.bea.gov/regional/gsp/
 

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Politically, I'm usually on the opposite "side" of most here... but Hung Jon hit the nail on the head. All any of the politicians care about is more power and getting themselves re-elected. The US of A is truly in sad shape, and it's getting sadder every minute. We've got the sorriest bunch in power than ever before. I just hope that we're getting past to time when we think that all the bums have to be thrown out, "except my representative/senator". It's time for a complete turnover of the house, one third of the senate, and the president. Maybe Obama will step down on his own, so at least we have two new choices!
 

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Do you really think that the replacement candidates would be much/any better as a lot? (as viewed from ANY political perspective) Where would they come from?

Politically, I'm usually on the opposite "side" of most here... but Hung Jon hit the nail on the head. All any of the politicians care about is more power and getting themselves re-elected. The US of A is truly in sad shape, and it's getting sadder every minute. We've got the sorriest bunch in power than ever before. I just hope that we're getting past to time when we think that all the bums have to be thrown out, "except my representative/senator". It's time for a complete turnover of the house, one third of the senate, and the president. Maybe Obama will step down on his own, so at least we have two new choices!
 

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Seriously. The ignorant, red neck half of the country is whats wrong with it and what has been wrong with it since... the very beginning. I'm not saying there aren't any great people in the south. There are. But ideologically speaking the issues we can't seem to parse come from that region.



JSZ

Oh yeah, everything that's wrong with this country is the Souths fault. I'm sure evrything is just peaches & cream up in the north. FUCK YOU!!
 

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Obama, a horrible president? Really.

After the moronic group of corrupt Republicans of the past decade that lead to the rapid demise of this great country. After the Bumbling Bush lied us into a war, lead the charge of deregulation of the banks and healthcare, and generally just fucked everything up for generations. This idiot critcizes Barak Obama. A man rasied by a single mom and his grandparents who holds more international respect in his fingertip than the Bumbling Bush could ever muster in 8 years? You must be kidding me. Please. Look at all the harm caused by Bush. Not to mention Bush's crush of civil and gay rights. In a word: Pathetic. In two words, completely pathetic.

Go President Obama. You have my respect, admiration and support.
 

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Obama, a horrible president? Really.

After the moronic group of corrupt Republicans of the past decade that lead to the rapid demise of this great country. After the Bumbling Bush lied us into a war, lead the charge of deregulation of the banks and healthcare, and generally just fucked everything up for generations. This idiot critcizes Barak Obama. A man rasied by a single mom and his grandparents who holds more international respect in his fingertip than the Bumbling Bush could ever muster in 8 years? You must be kidding me. Please. Look at all the harm caused by Bush. Not to mention Bush's crush of civil and gay rights.
I've always maintained that becoming president is like being put in the driver's seat of a moving car.

Not an easy feat, especially if that car's navigating an Iraqi war and the cause & effects of a global Economic crisis.

Change takes time, and clearly lots of kissing businessmen's asses as it seems they are the true decision-makers of your country.
I wonder what Mc Cain would've achieved, if anything, had the Republicans been elected. :confused:
 

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Can we jettison the Southern states- PLEASE???

Sure can buddy. I hope you ride a bicycle and are a vegetarian, bc you might miss our oil and beef. Also, I hope you don't get into any trouble, bc over 80% of our nations military comes from below the mason Dixon line. But, I'm sure we all would be glad to be jettisoned. Even if we are "dumb rednecks."
 

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Awwww. Did we hurt your feelings? There's an awful lot of truth in the statement of the poster to whom you responded. Abraham Lincoln must have been the most stupid president we've ever had for not just waving bye-bye to you all in 1861.

How's all that fundamentalist ignorance workin' out for y'all?

Please give that secession thing another try. Hope you don't miss receiving all of that tax revenue from the blue states coming your way via the Federal government.

Oh yeah, everything that's wrong with this country is the Souths fault. I'm sure evrything is just peaches & cream up in the north. FUCK YOU!!
 
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Let's see what the political backlash is if these Medicare/Medicaid cuts are part of the plan to raise the debt ceiling.

The proverbial crap will hit the proverbial fan and the Democrats will rush to Hillary Clinton so fast it will make Mr. O's head spin!!
 

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I see where he has told the Republicans that he is willing to put cuts on the table. Maybe it is a bluff, the Repbs don't want to take by pissing off the largest voting block in the history of the USA, the baby boomers. This could get interesting.
I think that's exactly it. The Republicans have said that he'll drive the country into unmanageable debt with his medical plans, and so he's offered them a chance to cut Medicare, knowing full well they won't erode that program because it directly affects their primary voter base. It's actually an ingenious move. The Republicans lie by saying that healthcare can't be obtained by his methods and Obama calls their bluff by giving them an unacceptable compromise. They can't accept without losing votes, and they have to be careful about how they decline to avoid looking hypocritical.

This is a political play. nothing more.
One that didn't involve giving them everything they wanted?

Here's the thing: He didn't have to negotiate anything. This was all political theater. The debt ceiling has been raised over 70 times before, and it always gets raised, because the consequences of not doing so are disastrous.
Sooooo..... everyone knows that the debt ceiling will be raised. No one likes it, but everyone knows that it will come to pass, pretty much no matter what is offered. The perceived cause of this increase would be Obama's programs.... except he offered them to be cut. So if Obama offers the programs to be cut, and Congress refuses, what exactly do they blame then? Even if the Republicans decide to call his bluff, he can safely make it knowing there's enough Democrats in Congress to back his play. More political smoke and mirrors.

Remember in the 2008 election when people kept criticizing Obama for not having the experience necessary to be a competent politician? He plays the game pretty well, doesn't he?
 

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Can you elaborate on 'stronger GDP'? I must be missing something. California's GDP per capita ranking outstripes Texas by a country mile.

Do the math. For every 1 person in California, there is 19.26$ contributing to the national economy. In Texas, for every 1 person, there is 21.76$ being contributed.

It all adds up to nickels and dimes sure, but the ignorance being spewed forth from the northerners speaks volumes.

And y'all like to call us dumb? Bahaha
 

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Here is what has happened to my medical plan since the Affordable Health Care Act was passed in march. I had insurance on both my kids (BC/BS) individual policy - $115 per month premium for each child and $1000 ded with 80./20 ( which paid 80 percent before ded was met). In March, the ded went to $426 per child and a $2000 ded for each child which had to be met before it would pay the 80 percent). My insurance at work this year - starting this July - my premuim is $600 per month - with a $4000 ded and NO prescription coverage. The 4000 has to be met before it will pay the 80 percent and I still have to pay full price on all my meds. I am unable to get a private policy for myself due to being a diabetic, HBP. Oh, yes and my son has ADHD and his meds cost me $350 a month now since he has no insurance. To add my children to my policy it would cost $1500 for both kids and the $600 for me. I only bring home $2,100 a month clear. Thanks OBAMA for my affordable health care. I can't get my kids on medicade because I make $1.12 too much a YEAR. My gross salary a month is too much and they take so much from my check, Taxes, Retirement (30%), medicare, union dues ( mandatory), Insurance premuim.
I am a Teacher with a Masters Degree in my area and 24 years teaching experience.
Thanks again Obama and Perlosi. I would LOVE to see Obama and Perlosi live on my salary and raise a family of 4.
 
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Do the math. For every 1 person in California, there is 19.26$ contributing to the national economy. In Texas, for every 1 person, there is 21.76$ being contributed.

It all adds up to nickels and dimes sure, but the ignorance being spewed forth from the northerners speaks volumes.

And y'all like to call us dumb? Bahaha


Utterly meaningless. California attracts far more people than Texas driving down per capita earnings. Washington D.C. is #1 in per capita income by a long long shot. Why? It sure helps to have only .6 million people. Why don't you put Texas and Washington DC up for a match?
 
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If it weren't for oil this probably wouldn't be true.

Do the math. For every 1 person in California, there is 19.26$ contributing to the national economy. In Texas, for every 1 person, there is 21.76$ being contributed.

It all adds up to nickels and dimes sure, but the ignorance being spewed forth from the northerners speaks volumes.

And y'all like to call us dumb? Bahaha