Obama doesn't have enough experience...but what constitutes "enough?"

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My personal hunch is that if Obama becomes president, he will need extra security detail for future state visits to Germany because of the danger of being kidnapped there and being made their chancellor, or president, or both.

In the words of Thomas Friedman:

It would not be an exaggeration to say that the Democrats’ nomination of Obama as their candidate for president has done more to improve America’s image abroad — an image dented by the Iraq war, President Bush’s invocation of a post-9/11 “crusade,” Abu Ghraib, Guantánamo Bay and the xenophobic opposition to Dubai Ports World managing U.S. harbors — than the entire Bush public diplomacy effort for seven years. Read more...
 

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Actually TRINITY...he didn't CLAIM there were 70,000 people in Portland.......those were POLICE ESTIMATES of the crowd.....not the campaigns........And I beg to differ....the election of Obama to the presidency WILL improve the USA's image abroad....the other day Senator McCain held a campaign rally in his home state of Arizona.......a totAL of 100 people attended
 

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why the fuck are they campaigning over seas?
no wonder we are the laughing stock of the world...
imagine if other countries and their candidates came to USA to campaign, i mean honestly.. WHAT THE FUCK!? could they possibly waste any more money?! its pathetic, this is a fuckin circus , not a presidential race
 

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No. I just pay attention to the news.


Analysis: Why didn't Obama get his bounce?
WASHINGTON, July 24 (UPI) -- Sen. Barack Obama's progress through Israel and Jordan, like his visits to Afghanistan and Iraq earlier this week, was a smoothly constructed triumph. Yet he isn't getting the bounce out of it in the polls he ought to. Whatever is going on?
A Domestic Reality Check on Obamania Abroad
Gallup- July 24, 2008
And not only is Obama not getting an immediate spike from his European trip, he doesn't have an unusually strong position in general for a Democratic candidate in the United States. If it's true that Obama's youthful charisma and rock star appeal is propelling him to such positive positioning in Europe, then there's an interesting question as to why it's not having the same effect here in the United States.
There was a rock concert at the same location where Obama was to speak. He did the same thing in here in the states when he claimed a crowd of 70,000 in Oregon.

While improving our image world wide is a wonderful thing, Obama's presence won't single handedly do that despite the spin the "O" tries to push.



Gallup Daily: Obama Maintains Slim Edge Over McCain
NJ -- Gallup Poll Daily tracking of national registered voters' presidential election preferences finds Barack Obama with a slight advantage over John McCain, 45% to 43%.

McCain Makes Significant Gains in Key Battleground States

Republican John McCain has quickly closed the gap between himself and Democratic rival Sen. Barack Obama in several key battleground states even as the Arizona senator struggles to break through the wall-to-wall coverage of Obama's trip to Europe and the Middle East this week.

McCain and Obama are in a statistical dead heat in Colorado, Michigan and Minnesota while the Illinois senator has a more comfortable double-digit edge in Wisconsin, according to polling conducted by Quinnipiac University for washingtonpost.com and the Wall Street Journal during the past week. Only in Colorado, however, does McCain hold a greater percentage of the vote share than Obama.

Presidential poll calls Michigan a toss-up



Rasmussen Wednesday, July 23, 2008

Barack Obama has caught up to John McCain in Florida. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state finds Obama with a statistically insignificant one-point advantage over his rival, 46% to 45%. When “leaners” are included, the Democrat leads 49% to 47%.


In case you hadn't heard, Sen. Barack Obama is on a presidential victory tour of Europe and the Middle East this week. He's going to give what his staff bills as "a major speech" in Berlin on Thursday because Germans can't vote in the American election.

So the new NBC-Wall Street Journal Poll is coming out this evening. And even in this alleged year of the Democrat, with the Obama campaign practically printing money and already running general election ads in Republican strongholds, the new July results will show that the Illinois Democrat's 6-point lead from June has remained exactly the same as in June -- 6 points. (See MSNBC video below.)

According to the results, Americans (46%-41%) feel McCain is the "safer choice" for the White House. McCain leads by a larger margin (58%-46%) as the candidate with the background and set of values they most identify with. A majority (51%-27%) find themselves thinking more about what an Obama administration would be like.

McCain Opens Modest Lead in Ohio
Rasmussen - July 22, 2008
John McCain has opened a modest lead over Barack Obama in the key swing state of Ohio. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Buckeye State shows McCain attracting 46% of the vote while Obama earns 40%


Didn't get a "bounce" Trinity??

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows a bounce for Barack Obama. The presumptive Democratic nominee attracts 46% of the vote while John McCain earns 41%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 49% and McCain 44%. Just three days ago, the candidates were tied at 46% (with leaners).
This is the first time that Obama has enjoyed a five point advantage since July 8. It’s also the first time he has reached the 49% level of support since that date. In June, Obama’s support stayed within a point of the 49% level virtually every day and the Democrat typically led by about five percentage points. The race has been closer over the past couple of weeks (see recent daily results). As with any bounce in the polls, it will take a few days to determine whether it reflects a lasting change in the race or is merely statistical noise.
Rasmussen just called it a BOUNCE; likely because only Rasmussen can see the individual day to day numbers. To go from tied to a 5 point lead in 2 days of polling indicates that Obama's numbers last night were off the chart. This all the while the RNC and FOX News try to set forth a Meme that the trip has not been working. Much of the media reporting on "bad polling" surrounds the Quinnipiac polling released yesterday, most stunningly showing McCain retaking a lead in Colorado. HOWEVER, no one seemed to note that the poll was taken July 14-22nd; well before anything other than a few military photos of Obama from Iraq hit the press.
A new Colorado poll released today from previously unheard of Frederick Polls shows Obama holding on to a 4 point lead over McCain.
The Keith Frederick poll of 700 Colorado voters release Thursday afternoon showed Obama with 45 percent and McCain with 41 percent. Fourteen percent were undecided.
 

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Didn't get a "bounce" Trinity??
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows a bounce for Barack Obama. The presumptive Democratic nominee attracts 46% of the vote while John McCain earns 41%. When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 49% and McCain 44%. Just three days ago, the candidates were tied at 46% (with leaners).
This is the first time that Obama has enjoyed a five point advantage since July 8. It’s also the first time he has reached the 49% level of support since that date. In June, Obama’s support stayed within a point of the 49% level virtually every day and the Democrat typically led by about five percentage points. The race has been closer over the past couple of weeks (see recent daily results). As with any bounce in the polls, it will take a few days to determine whether it reflects a lasting change in the race or is merely statistical noise.

Rasmussen just called it a BOUNCE; likely because only Rasmussen can see the individual day to day numbers. To go from tied to a 5 point lead in 2 days of polling indicates that Obama's numbers last night were off the chart. This all the while the RNC and FOX News try to set forth a Meme that the trip has not been working. Much of the media reporting on "bad polling" surrounds the Quinnipiac polling released yesterday, most stunningly showing McCain retaking a lead in Colorado. HOWEVER, no one seemed to note that the poll was taken July 14-22nd; well before anything other than a few military photos of Obama from Iraq hit the press.
A new Colorado poll released today from previously unheard of Frederick Polls shows Obama holding on to a 4 point lead over McCain.
The Keith Frederick poll of 700 Colorado voters release Thursday afternoon showed Obama with 45 percent and McCain with 41 percent. Fourteen percent were undecided.


Five points and a Frederick Poll? :rolleyes:
 

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why the fuck are they campaigning over seas?
no wonder we are the laughing stock of the world...
imagine if other countries and their candidates came to USA to campaign, i mean honestly.. WHAT THE FUCK!? could they possibly waste any more money?! its pathetic, this is a fuckin circus , not a presidential race

To establish relations overseas, let them know what's to come if each of them gets elected. Bush did plenty to ruin our international reputation, and they want to regain the respect and support they need in order to make good on international policies.
The purpose of a speech isn't always to get the votes of those in the crowd. We need the economic support of people overseas, and many have said lately that they should have a say in our election because of how much of it affects them. Going to speak directly to them not only establishes the respect of those here who realize such, but also helps to improve our national image.
 
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five points equals electoral landslide

Exactly. And the country is free from tyranny.

Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado!
Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California!
But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia!
Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee!
Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.
 

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why the fuck are they campaigning over seas?
no wonder we are the laughing stock of the world...
imagine if other countries and their candidates came to USA to campaign, i mean honestly.. WHAT THE FUCK!? could they possibly waste any more money?! its pathetic, this is a fuckin circus , not a presidential race

Actually we're the laughing stock of the world because of the mass, yet subtle bigotry. The sad part is that it has become facetious and accepted.

Just think, US citizens (not all of us of course) are scared of Obama because of his name and that he may (even though he is not) be a Muslim. No one cares about his religion but us. That's because of the stereotype that Muslim=bad and Christian=good. Even though they both worship the same "God". We seem to forget when Christians were persecuted and executed for being Christian. Same for Jews.

But people (mainly the ones that make it out to the voting booths) are so dogmatic with their beliefs and social axioms that there is not even the slightest crack for diversity to slip through.
 

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You could throw a fucking monkey in the white house, and it would do a better job at running the country... That is tell somone started to bribe it with fruit, then there would be no difference between them.

Ps. Goerge bush, not obama