Obama had the votes...

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  1. Notaguru2

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    It turns out that Obama had the votes in the Rules Committee to be awarded 50% of the delegates in Michigan. His campaign was so moved by the Michigan democratic party and their unified proposal, that Obama opted instead for the 69/59 package. This is a sure fire sign that he feels comfortable with his delegate lead and that this is all, but over.

    Probably the best move he could have made in terms of party unity.

    Obama had the votes for 50-50 MI split - First Read - msnbc.com
     
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    But Clinton has the POPULAR vote...much like Al Gore had in 2000. So, no apparently we haven't learned from history.
     
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    Citation of factual source, please?
     
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    LOL... wrong. Stop listening to Hillary and do some fact finding bucko! =)
     
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    Obama may get the ticket.But he WONT get the white house.That my friend is a sad fact of this country.Deal!
     
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    I hate to inform you, but the drapes are being picked out as we speak =)
     
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    Why would you find that sad? Didn't you say you're voting for McCain instead of Obama?
     
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    Sorry to interrupt, but as Caucauses are not counted by vote, but by percentages. Reasoning would suggest that since Obama won most of the caucases he would still lead in the majority vote.
     
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    Yes Iam.Im a democrat and I dont trust or care for Obama
     
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    Any time people blame something on "other Americans" 90% of the time they're just projecting their own issues. Is the US too racist, or are you trying to qualify your own bigotry?

    (I'm not playing the race card, I just don't know what you meant exactly so that's a guess. Fill in whatever your reason was if that's not the case.)

    Anyway I can't say I'm happy the delegates are being seated at all. Florida and Michigan fucked up, it has nothing to do with the candidates. From a party point of view there's little stopping other states from pulling similar shit come next election... if anything it'd give the state's primary more media attention, ergo more perceived importance.

    Half delegates is a half-assed approach anyway. Our party heads are such pushovers these days...
     
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    LMAO.I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE how obama supporters feel the need to pull out the race card when you say you dont want to vote for him.Sad.I dont think he has a great record.Thats why Im not voting for him.So put your card back in your hat.It looks much better there.Ciao
     
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    Did you miss what I said? It's an argument I've used to people who say we won't elect a black president, so I recycled it. I tacked on a disclaimer that I wasn't reading in to your post, only providing a generic argument since your post was vague. Yeesh, read much?
     
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    You're absolutely right, and he does have the lead in both delegates and the popular vote. Admittedly, Clinton has gained ground on him, but he only needs 50 more delegates to her 204. Also, if you look over this article, you'll see that the remaining super delegates are reportedly being lined up behind Obama to help him seal the deal and move the party forward. They want to get it over with, stop the intra-party bickering, and the best way to do it is to end the Clinton campaign.
    Barack Obama launches final push to claim crown in 48 hours - Times Online
     
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    OOoOooo... you don't get off that easy. I need some examples. Lay them out for us... as passionate as you are about your disdain regarding Obama, the list should come quickly to you. So, lets hear it!

    (I've just placed a bet with a Vegas bookie, that Jason doesn't know wtf he's talking about)
     
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    But that's only if you ignore the next three rows which show different scenarios. I assume one of them doesn't apply anymore since Michigan's delegates have been dealt with.

    All the sites that we have sourced (including the one above) show too many various statistics which either support one candidate or the other. Very few of them are consistent with the numbers. It's almost safe to say that NOBODY knows where this contest stands now. On some sites, Clinton does have the popular vote. On others, she doesn't. All Obama and/or Clinton fans are going to do is support the ones that back their view and dismiss the others. It's starting to get REALLY tired seeing people argue this.

    We have only one more day of primaries. After that, we're done. THEN, we can total up all of the votes and make a final decision. Until then, we should all stop the speculation and the shouting matches.
     
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    Yeh, but the current real scenario has Obama in the lead. Obama IS winning. Clinton MIGHT be able to take it from him.
     
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    I do so love in your postings that one lil dig or put down you so enjoy writing.Kisses,Jason:biggrin1:
     
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    I hope he chooses a nice celadon green with antique gold Greek key borders and tie backs. Celadon looks very distinguished in the oval office.
     
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