Obama is making the economy worse

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  1. B_24065

    B_24065 New Member

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    By preying on the fears of the American people, Obama is futher proving that his claim as a pragmatist rather than an ideologue is the farthest thing from the truth. He is using fearmongering, tactics he denounced from the previous administration, to jam through a radical far left agenda that will destroy our economy as we know it in order to replace it with a global socialist one. How long will it take for the American people to realize this guy is a stones throw from a full blown Leninist? Here are two articles. One is an open letter from financial guru Jim Cramer.

    Cramer: My Response To The White House | News | Money/Investing | Mainstreet

    Here is a speech given by the chair of the CPUSA ,the Communist Party of the USA, Sam Webb. He see's the Obama presidency as the beginning of the socialist takeover and declares that the far reaching implications of Obama's stance on labor, the stimulus, the budget, and Guantanamo are a clear sign that the revolution is at hand.

    Sam Webb: A New Era Begins - Socialist Economics | Google Groups

    I've said this many times on here and i'll say it again, Obama and Pelosi are going to take this nation into a dark age, much darker than anything we've ever seen before and they are gonna take the entire democratic party with it. I know it seemed untenable that a president and a party could be more despised than the previous, but within the next 4 to 6 years, this country will be so radically broken, we'll be begging for Bush back.

    P.S If you do not read both articles, then please keep your ignorant opinions to yourself (but you probably wont, and you'll most likely spew anyways).
     
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    A pestilent vapor such as youself is rapidly dissapated, all ya gotta do is stick a set of Dr. Scholl's ODOR EATERS in your shoes.
    Presto......your gone!
    Still bet that 300 posts won't happen.
    Cheeky monkey you.:wink:
     
  3. thickfriz

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    I agree he is wrecking the economy when has the Government ever gotten us out of a recession it is the people the small business owners and yes even the evil big business. They hire us if they fear higher taxes they are going to hire less. Simple economics. Gov't Stay Away!!
     
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    Oh, I forgot to mention one important fact. Jim Cramer is a known liberal democrat and voted for Obama. Given Obama's reckless spending spree and promise to raise taxes on those who fuel our economic engine, Cramer is realizing Obama either has no clue what he is doing, or he is a dangerous ideologue who is willing to wreck the economy in order to bring forth his radical adgenda.
     
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    You're a political infant if you thought the Obama=socialist was anything more than campaign red-baiting. The guys a moderate, he's not even as progressive as a lot of his party.

    Kramer claims is a Democrat supporter but spends half the article repeating the same tired talking points that DJIA dropping is correlation of Obama tanking the economy, and ridiculous supply-side bullshit.

    CPUSA is a lunatic fringe party that has never been and will never be relevant to anyone with half a brain.

    Kramer and Webb do not a convincing argument make. Perhaps you could supply some data that supports your thesis instead of relying on other people to try and make your point.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    'Fearmongering'. Having read the OP, that's rich. :rolleyes:
     
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    The political forums were much better when the voice of dissent came from Trinity. At least then it was from one controlled source. Now, we have a bunch of little Trin-ites running around the board, screaming and bitching at every gulp of air the current president takes.

    Absolutely pathetic.
     
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    Address the fucking post morons instead of making it an issue about the conservatives on this site. Your inablity to do that is what is "pathetic".
     
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    OBAMA????????????

    and here I thought your opening line was referring to Bush and his republican enablers. so that was enough for me to read to dismiss whatever the balance of your post was a total trash borne of a moron.

    do you recall?


    WMD WMD WMD WMD WMD

    TERRORISTS TERRORISTS TERRORISTS TERRORISTS TERRORISTS

    ECONOMIC DISASTER, NEED 700 BILLION IN 48 HOURS, NO QUESTIONS PLEASE - Paulsen, October-November 2008

    no one plays the fear card better than the fusking republicans (just like they're doing today) so how DARE you try to pin that on Obama you overblown, ignorant, MFr.
     
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    I did address it.
     
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    Welcome to "the Bush did it, so it's ok that Obama does" mentality. We've gone from a bad president to a worse president... who knew that was possible.
     
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    This is a variation of the next 'big lie' that is currently bouncing around the right wing echo chamber.

    -- Rush claims that (incorrectly) that the stock market began it's decline when Obama was nominated in 2008.
    -- Hannity claims that the recession was caused by the election.

    It's not about blaming Bush, even conservatives are doing that, it is trying to make this "Obama's recession', which is purely a partisan political issue.

    And, btw, thickfriz, government spending got the US out of the Great Depression. If you try to claim (wrongly) that this was actually WWII, consider what about this war was important, government spending. I know there is a lot of revisionist attempts on this part of our history, but the argument among economists has been over for a long time. (Newt Gingrich is not an economist, neither is Rush, btw, Paul Krugman is however.)

    Interestingly, even the Republicans of 1932 tried to blame the Democrats, despite the reality that the depression had gone on for 3 years. Some things never change.

    As for Kramer, he has described his background as liberal. I have enjoyed watching him, even if he is generally wrong about almost all of his stock recommendations, he does understand *business* financials. This is very different from fiscal or monetary policy, which is really the focus of the stimulus. Jon Stewart, of course, dismisses Kramer with the most aplomb.

    Jon Stewart Eviscerates CNBC, Santelli On Daily Show (VIDEO)

    Yeah, bring back Trinity, she was more fun. And, I hope that Star is let of out his mom's basement as soon as his grounding is over. These folks are much more interesting, and although entirely wrong, are much, much better sports.
     
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    Face, I'm happy to say that, for once, you're half right.

    And, lest you misconstrue, it's the first half.

    By the way, star's back the 9th. He'll be annoying as usual but at least it'll spark up the place. He's on vaca in FL. Should I tell him hello for you? :biggrin1:
     
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    Actually, here is the thing about Kramer. He is a stock picker and had some success in a bull market. He has been far, far less successful in bear or turbulent market. And, we should listen to his opinions on fiscal policy, government spending, monetary policy, etc.

    That is insane, it would like asking an unlicensed plumber about tax policy and mideast ... oh fuck ... forget it.
     
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    WHAT THE FUCK does this have to do with penis size?!? Get over it, buddy - the recession is not going to suck the size out of your dick. Your friend Georgy-orgy flushed this country down the toilet. He's the one you should be bitchin' about.
     
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    Cramer is a hack.. but I'm laughing at a presidential administration calling out specific media members. Bush woulda/shoulda had a field day... one of my knocks on him, was they would never call out some of the BS thrown at them. Meanwhile, Carter and Clinton cast aside decency and critique a sitting administration. Had Hillary not gotten the disasterous Sec of State nod... I'm guessing old philandering bulbous nose finger pointing hack would be ripping Barrah a new one by now.
     
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    I don't see how the Obama haters cannot see what HAS to happen. There's no way in HELL anyone can wave a magic wand and fix this fucked up economy after what the past 8 years had made of it. We're "Borrowing from Peter to Pay Paul" so to speak in hopes to correct the mistakes of the past. You HAVE to do that. Nothing else left to do here at this point. No person republican or democrat could have fixed the economy right away without doing some kind of stimulous plan, that would have cost less. The rebuilding of the infrastructure of our country will create jobs, giving more people more money to spend, thus stimulating our economy back to a more normal plane... but it will not happen over night and I'm just using this one idea of the many that are proposed. Expect the economy to be shit for a few years regardless. Again, no one can fix this mess quickly...so we can all just sit back and wait...or bitch like some have chosen to do. *not that it helps the situation.* Protect your own ass financially till things get more back to normal is all you can do. Evidentially, the prez is doing something right to have his approval rating so high at this point.
     
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    ohh so true, things tend to get worse b4 they get better, and lets face it they HAVE to get better. i have some issues with obama sure, like the fact he has written more books than laws and has the ohh so jimmy carter esque air of "we'll just print more money and not worry about it, lets focous on more important things like making convertibles illegal" but he also has an amazing group of people backing him, i'm a liby-ro-tarian as they say, i like to call myself an anarchist with rules, so its only fair to remind the slowly fading away right wingers that they can bitch about thier money all they want, the best economy this country has ever seen was in the 8 years that horrible man, who did that horrible thing, in that patriotic place ran things.
     
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    You're not making a "fuckin' point". You're making another unsubstantial, rhetorical rant. Because THAT is all you know how to do.

    You overly generalize situations and use your obsessive hate for anything not conservative to argue rhetorical points that has no substance, no real proof, but yet full on bullshit. But just for the sake of not coming off too negative, I do acknowledge the fact that you do that VERY well. :rolleyes:
     
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