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I blame the guy who profited from making the guns.

and vote by mail.

yeah, but indirectly, the person (people) who voted for the crooked president has partial blame as well

and when there is a candidate on the ballot who is actually different then the same old recycled democrat vs republican BS we get every four years, who will actually make this country better, then maybe I'll find my way to a voting booth
 

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yeah, but indirectly, the person (people) who voted for the crooked president has partial blame as well

and when there is a candidate on the ballot who is actually different then the same old recycled democrat vs republican BS we get every four years, who will actually make this country better, then maybe I'll find my way to a voting booth

you sound like i did 20 years ago...:biggrin1:
then some of the more radical people i knew convinced me it was better to vote for the lessor of the two evils, until a REAL candidate does actually come along.
 

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you sound like i did 20 years ago...:biggrin1:
then some of the more radical people i knew convinced me it was better to vote for the lessor of the two evils, until a REAL candidate does actually come along.

lol yeah maybe i'll grow out of my way of thinking as i age

i think i lost faith when i bought into thinking obama was actually gonna bring some change, i was skeptical, but still hoped in the back of my mind that he wasn't like the rest of them. it felt like that feeling when you officially found out santa wasn't real, yeah your better judgement knew it was bullshit, but you still hoped it was true haha

btw, i find really radical people to be annoying, you know, the guys walking around campus (or at least my school) with anarchy stickers on their mac book that their parents paid for talking about how karl marx was the best thing since sliced bread
 

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It you don't vote then maybe you're just lazy.

For some people that may be true

But those who know me, know that lazy is not part of my make up

If I see 2 stiff ass empty suits who do nothing but smear each other during campaigns & make countless empty promises because at the core of their beliefs, they really don't have any major differences (let's get real, except for a few hot button social issues that won't change any time soon like abortion & their stance on marijuana, democrats & republicans in today's political arena have no real differences)

With that being said, why vote? It won't make a difference, & at the end of the day, no matter who is president you will still have to wake up every morning to go to work, pay taxes, pay for gas & do the same old routine. To act like presidents actually make a difference is a falacy. Look at marriage rights, the common sense solution is to let gay people get married, but they won't do it any time soon & it will force people to sit around & argue about it to distract the people from looking at real issues in the world (the economy, how we spend a RIDICULOUS amount of $ on defense, insane gas prices, shady political moves like dealing guns with gorilla fighters for special interest etc.) The political process is nothing more than a glorified beauty contest & the average american gets sucked into it thinking it really matters who's in office. People need to understand that the president can't really do shit when congress makes all the decisions.

& another thing, the only people who actually try to make a difference in the world always gets assassinated

With all that being said, no I am not lazy, I just see our political system for what it really is, a bunch of bullshit with HD camera's (don't get me started on our limp dick media) & I choose to do things that is more productive. & I will continue that until there is a candidate who is NOT an empty suit spewing the same old shit
 
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honestly Bjen, your lack of faith in voting is both tiresome and uninformed. if you had more experience voting you would know that:
1. many elections are decided by just a few votes.
2. all candidates for the same office do NOT have similar intentions ( and i mean ANY elected office).
3. i won a seat on the local school board here in CA because NO ONE else bothered to apply. just one other application would have made my race contested.
4. voting forces you to think . it is apparent you dont do too much of that.
5. Obama is neither crooked or unable to bring change. if you havent noticed , quite a lot has changed in the last 3 and one half years, for the better. lets just start with the end of the war in Iraq and the death of Bin Laden.
6. no , you are not lazy physically, but you ARE lazy intellectually and civically.
7. there have been numerous assassination plots against the president that have fortunately been foiled. and there are many others that dont make it into the media. you are so naive it is scary.
8. go read some history of the US. you are clueless.