Obamacare signups pass the 7 million mark

[StormfrontFL]

It may come as a surprise to you by I existed BEFORE I joined LPSG and was eligible to vote even...

Nice attempt to avoid the fact that you've always embraced the GOP while being against the Democrats. No one has a complete turn around like that.

 

[deleted213967]

Nice attempt to avoid the fact that you've always embraced the GOP while being against the Democrats. No one has a complete turn around like that.

I always thought that conservatives were right on most economic issues even before my epiphany.

Still, I felt uneasy about the association of the conservative movement with some elements of the evangelical Christian crowd...mainly the Intelligent Design set (ID to which many mostly uneducated Democratic voters subscribe as well)

By now I have come to accept as valid the positions of conservatives and liberals alike on multiple social issues and hold moderate views fairly aligned with the average American voter (abortion, death penalty, affirmative action, voter ID ...).

 

[StormfrontFL]

I always thought that conservatives were right on most economic issues even before my epiphany.

Still, I felt uneasy about the association of the conservative movement with some elements of the evangelical Christian crowd...mainly the Intelligent Design set (ID to which many mostly uneducated Democratic voters subscribe as well)

By now I have come to accept as valid the views of conservatives and liberals alike on multiple social issues and hold moderate views fairly aligned with the average American voter (abortion, death penalty, affirmative action, voter ID ...).

Thank you for explaining yourself.

I do find it strange that you don't speak out against the role of evangelicals within the party. I also ask why you haven't spoken out againt the GOP's view on gay rights. If Republicans who feel negatively about the direction of their party remain silent aren't we to assume that they are okay with it?

 

[deleted213967]

Thank you for explaining yourself.

I do find it strange that you don't speak out against the role of evangelicals within the party. I also ask why you haven't spoken out againt the GOP's view on gay rights. If Republicans who feel negatively about the direction of their party remain silent aren't we to assume that they are okay with it?

Personally, I would have settled for a strong civil union statute (everything but marriage) but at the federal level, rather that a confusing and divisive patchwork of arrangements with marriage in one state and nothing in another state.

I also like the fact that marriage was granted by an indisputable majority of voters in my own state, not by a single judge.

 

[StormfrontFL]

Personally, I would have settled for a strong civil union statute (everything but marriage) but at the federal level, rather that a confusing and divisive patchwork of arrangements with marriage in one state and nothing in another state.

I also like the fact that marriage was granted by an indisputable majority of voters in my own state, not by a single judge.

Where I find problems is when it comes to the lives of a particular group left up to a vote. Would there have been changes in the Old South if civil rights was left up to a vote? Would the bigoted citizens of Alabama or Mississippi who were the majority have voted that blacks should be treated the same? What you back is essentially separate but equal. Marriage is no longer a simple ceremony. Even atheists get married so why should heterosexuals get to call it marriage if it is the same as homosexual unions? Either both are called marriage or none are.Keep the government separate and leave the terminology up to the churches

 

[Klingsor]

Personally, I would have settled for a strong civil union statute (everything but marriage) but at the federal level, rather that a confusing and divisive patchwork of arrangements with marriage in one state and nothing in another state.

Why everything but marriage? We'd still be talking about civil, not church, ceremonies.

At this point, personally, the idea of marriage doesn't mean that much to me one way or the other. But why deny it to those for whom it has importance?

Agree about the need for a federal stance, rather than the piecemeal process we're going through now.

I also like the fact that marriage was granted by an indisputable majority of voters in my own state, not by a single judge.

But will you approve a federal pronouncement in favor of same-sex marriage/unions--perhaps hinging on a single Supreme Court justice--that might overturn the indisputable majority vote in some states?

 

[green26]

He usually attempts to denote Obama as foreign so Barry is an improvement. Barry=Barack

Ok, thanks

 

[h0neymustard]

Over 214,000 Doctors Opt Out of Obamacare Exchanges | CNS News

 

[b.c.]

According to the above article from CNS News, "the RIGHT news, RIGHT now," that's 1 in 4 doctors, the rest pursuing their profession and putting first their oaths to provide care for those in need.

One of the main reasons cited in "the right news" article is that some insured under the ACA have high deductibles and doctors are afraid they might not get paid. For one, that possibility always existed, not to mention the fact that many sought and received treatment in emergency rooms without ANY insurance at ALL. So what's the difference??

Bottom line is, if your doctor is opting out of Obamacare, then maybe you've been seeing the wrong doctor.

 

[Fuzzy_]

"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor [if they don't get greedy and only accept cash while denying their services to the poor]"

 

[h0neymustard]

"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor [if they don't get greedy and only accept cash while denying their services to the poor]"

If you like your doctor, you can keep him. We'll force him to see patients and not pay him for it. Like slavery.

 

[vince]

If you like your doctor, you can keep him. We'll force him to see patients and not pay him for it. Like slavery.

Those doctors not being paid should change jobs. I heard the Death Panels are short staffed and are looking for examiners.

 

[b.c.]

To go to illustrate the level of near psychotic angst conservatives have against ANYTHING "Obama" is this story on how Republican's hate Obamacare, except when it's called something ELSE:

Seems the DEMOCRATIC governor of RED STATE Kentucky (a state that accepted the medicaid expansion, btw) saw fit to do their best to obscure the connection between "Obamacare" and that state's exchange, called Kynect.

The result? They LOVE IT. Go figure.


Republicans boycott Obamacare: Study suggests conservatives are less likely to use its exchanges


And how did the INSURERS react to the midterm elections?? They were ECSTATIC, of COURSE.

According to the report, within 24 hours of knowing McConnell was replacing Reid, investors bought so much health insurance STOCK, some share prices reached RECORD heights.

And here's the BIG LAUGH (and the jokes on all of US). The companies are doing just FINE under the ACA anyway. So the GOP is probably in no hurry to REPEAL it, according to the report.

And should they try, guess WHO those investors and insurance companies will ULTIMATELY be relying on to SAVE THE DAY?? Hint: it starts with an O.


Health insurers win midterm election!

 

[h0neymustard]

The fine has gone up for people that dont want to participate in Obamacare.

 

[Klingsor]

The fine has gone up for people that dont want to participate in Obamacare.

Wasn't that built into the law from the beginning?

 

[h0neymustard]

Yes, but its even more now.

 

[Klingsor]

Yes, but its even more now.

My point was, the *increase* was already built into the law. Are you saying the original schedule has changed? Can that happen without some legislative amendment?

The fee you pay if you don't have health coverage

 

[b.c.]

My point was, the *increase* was already built into the law. Are you saying the original schedule has changed? Can that happen without some legislative amendment?

The fee you pay if you don't have health coverage

Shhhhhhhhh.... don't tell 'em.

 

[ShockTheMonkey]

Jonathan Gruber, the MIT professor and author of ObamaCare was caught on video calling American voters stupid and saying he wrote the health care bill in a confusing way because "lack of transparency is a huge political advantage."

 

[b.c.]

Jonathan Gruber, the MIT professor and author of ObamaCare was caught on video calling American voters stupid and saying he wrote the health care bill in a confusing way because "lack of transparency is a huge political advantage."

I think the "stupidity" of American voters is evidenced by the type of ads the GOP run, and WIN by. THEY in fact, RELY on it.

Re. Gruber, wasn't he also the author of ROMNEYCARE, the Massachusetts reforms, signed into law BY Romney, upon which "Obamacare" is BASED?