No, it isn't. But the smoking cessation programs that were supposed to be funded by the tax ended up being under-funded.
Obamacare signups pass the 7 million mark
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No, it isn't. But the smoking cessation programs that were supposed to be funded by the tax ended up being under-funded.
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There's A Huge Reality Gap On Obamacare, And This New Poll Proves It
There's A Huge Reality Gap On Obamacare, And This New Poll Proves It
There's A Huge Reality Gap On Obamacare, And This New Poll Proves It
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To the extent this was because people had quit smoking, there's a certain irony there.
slurper_la
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Republicans Are Screwed If The Supreme Court Guts Obamacare
Obamacare: What If the GOP Gets What It Wants? -- NYMag
Obamacare: What If the GOP Gets What It Wants? -- NYMag
Are you serious, or is this a joke? Anybody who works in healthcare knows that the ACA is an abject failure. Even people who like Obama know that the ACA is has thrown the entire healthcare system into chaos. You're either blind by ideology or you have no idea of what you're talking about. Dems and GOP alike--if they work in healthcare--regard the ACA as the worst thing to happen to healthcare in three generations.
Abject failure. Period.
Obamacare's Health Plan Choice Benefits Are Vastly Overrated
"...One of the reasons for the popularity of universal health care systems elsewhere in the developed world is that when everybody is in the same system, everybody has an incentive to make that program work. The people of those countries have a sense of ownership and responsibility for their common system.
That contrasts sharply with the situation here in the U.S., where people primarily and often exclusively are concerned with their own little piece of the system, such as Medicare, the Veterans Affairs, their own employment-based or veterans insurance, plans purchased on the Obamacare exchanges, Medicaid and so on.
Americans also are confused about who owns the system. Is it the government, their employer or their union? Or, as more Americans are coming to believe, health insurance companies, the pharmaceutical industry or the increasingly consolidated corporate providers of health care such as large hospital systems?
In other words, we lack the solidarity that both is an expression of and created by the existence of a single common way of dealing with the challenges of providing affordable health care coverage for all...."
"...One of the reasons for the popularity of universal health care systems elsewhere in the developed world is that when everybody is in the same system, everybody has an incentive to make that program work. The people of those countries have a sense of ownership and responsibility for their common system.
That contrasts sharply with the situation here in the U.S., where people primarily and often exclusively are concerned with their own little piece of the system, such as Medicare, the Veterans Affairs, their own employment-based or veterans insurance, plans purchased on the Obamacare exchanges, Medicaid and so on.
Americans also are confused about who owns the system. Is it the government, their employer or their union? Or, as more Americans are coming to believe, health insurance companies, the pharmaceutical industry or the increasingly consolidated corporate providers of health care such as large hospital systems?
In other words, we lack the solidarity that both is an expression of and created by the existence of a single common way of dealing with the challenges of providing affordable health care coverage for all...."
I'm glad you brought up the VA. I previously worked for a healthcare company that did business with a VA Hospital. The service and care was atrocious. It was so bad that any vet with other alternatives--even if it cost more out-of-pocket--would go elsewhere. I'm generalizing, but for the most part, the employees were crooked, lazy and stupid. It was like the DMV. The ACA is the VA system on steroids. It's not even the fault of the workers... it's that government-ran systems cannot--by definition--operate efficiently. There's no profit motive. Then the unions get involved... affirmative-action hires... "diversity"... whole thing comes crashing down.
Ahh, interesting, so Profit Motive is the key, like JP Morgan?, or wait, sorry, there already is a JP Morgan of Health Insurance; Kaiser- Permanente made 2.7 billion profit in 2013!
Kaiser Permanente Thrive Exposed
This is great... you bring up a great point! I actually hate Kaiser. I was previously a member... So, you know what I did? I switched to HealthNet. No joke. Capitalism is a beautiful thing. See how liberating it is??? We have options. That's freedom.
Ouch, liberating, options? Which options? Who decides who gets what? Options? That's not freedom, that's entitlement.
Since when does how much money one makes have anything to do with whether one gets health care or not?
slurper_la
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Here are links that refute your claims. Can you provide any to support your claim?
Can The Health Care Industry Save Obamacare? - NationalJournal.com
How the Affordable Care Act Will Affect Provider Reimbursement | NueMD Blog
Benefits Of The Affordable Care Act | Health Care For Florida Now
How Obamacare Will Affect the Medical Billing Industry : MBAA
MOBs Big Hurdle: The Affordable Care Act & Its Effects on Healthcare Real Estate | CEM
Hiring in health care booms under ACA | MSNBC
maybe you're confused by a lie told by one of your republican gurus? Here's an excerpt from the above link:
One of my favorite Dick Morris stories comes from September 2011, when he wrote a column for The Hill about the Affordable Care Act. The Republican strategist noted that a recent jobs report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics found that the economy lost 30,000 healthcare jobs the previous month, which Morris said was proof that the health care industry is traumatized and terrified by the impact of ObamaCare.
There was just one problem: the economy had added 30,000 health care jobs the previous month. Morris was confused and read the report wrong, basing an entire column on a statistic that was the opposite of reality. (The Hill never ran a correction.)
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Well, affordability across all payers is key.
If care is the primary goal, with cost not being an issue, every doctor would order every test and prescribe every drug in the book, because there is no check on spending.
Now, who is going to check spending? A politician? Is this person actually qualified? No. A politician is not qualified to specify what health care is needed.
A system that provides everything either costs a lot of money, or goes broke.
So, in the end, someone comes up with some flow chart of what can and cannot be done under a given policy in an effort to keep costs manageable. Call it a quota system. Call it a base plan. Call it what you want. If a licensed doctor cannot order test he deems is necessary because a policy will not let him then someone who is not a doctor is playing doctor.
California State Auditor blasts Medi-Cal program for inadequate provider networks
By Tracy Seipel tseipel@mercurynews.com
16 Jun 2015, 01:00 PM
http://www.mercurynews.com/health/c...te-auditor-blasts-medi-cal-program-inadequate
SACRAMENTO -- A scathing state review of California's strained Medi-Cal program confirms what thousands of the health plan's exasperated enrollees have long complained about: The department tasked with overseeing health care for almost one third of the state's residents cannot ensure it has enough doctors to serve its 12.3 million patients.
Moreover, the report said, from February 2014 to January 2015, an ombudsman's office established to investigate and resolve complaints failed to answer 7,000 to 45,000 calls a month from frustrated Medi-Cal patients.
(10 of those calls were mine)
By Tracy Seipel tseipel@mercurynews.com
16 Jun 2015, 01:00 PM
http://www.mercurynews.com/health/c...te-auditor-blasts-medi-cal-program-inadequate
SACRAMENTO -- A scathing state review of California's strained Medi-Cal program confirms what thousands of the health plan's exasperated enrollees have long complained about: The department tasked with overseeing health care for almost one third of the state's residents cannot ensure it has enough doctors to serve its 12.3 million patients.
Moreover, the report said, from February 2014 to January 2015, an ombudsman's office established to investigate and resolve complaints failed to answer 7,000 to 45,000 calls a month from frustrated Medi-Cal patients.
(10 of those calls were mine)
- b.c.,
In tonight's NBC Nightly News (with Lester Holt) this story on today's SCOTUS ruling on "Obamacare" (with the usual hardline dissenters, of course):
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/supreme-court-upholds-obamacare-subsidies-471444035912
and in this report, what the law, called by some "Quite literally a lifesaver" means to real life people:
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...find-relief-in-obamacare-support-471447619523
AND, in this report (in spite of noise to the contrary) why the REPUBLICANS are just as relieved as anyone, because now they don't actually have to DO anything, other than trot out the same old tired rhetoric for the easily gullible:
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...-obamacare-despite-scotus-ruling-471449667670
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/supreme-court-upholds-obamacare-subsidies-471444035912
and in this report, what the law, called by some "Quite literally a lifesaver" means to real life people:
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...find-relief-in-obamacare-support-471447619523
AND, in this report (in spite of noise to the contrary) why the REPUBLICANS are just as relieved as anyone, because now they don't actually have to DO anything, other than trot out the same old tired rhetoric for the easily gullible:
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...-obamacare-despite-scotus-ruling-471449667670
Same here. I was forced to change providers, or pay sharp increases for the "privledge" (dontcha love that word these days?) to keep my current one. Also, have to now put significantly more dollars into an HSA plan to protect myself from getting slammed by deductibles, and to pay for other non covered, or lesser covered, items. A friggin mess. And BTW, no savings.
Another experience. My nephew turned twenty-six and is no longer covered under his parent's policy. He's in law school, and was actually without insurance for several months as he needed to make umpteen phone calls to the Obamacare hotline, never getting the same story or guidance twice. He is not entitled to uninterrupted medical coverage through his school (only when in session), and eventually found some coverage through state Medicare. No multiples options. No price shopping. A nightmare, for a law student, and I truly wonder how someone without the time, patience, grasp of terminology, and basic understanding can maneuver through the system.
