Obama's Secret Nod to Muslims

[B_starinvestor]

People change as they age. Life experience shows that the happy sappy yappy dappy naive ways of youth, don't cut it in the real world. Living on a commune has benefits; but, how exactly are the tax bills and the water bills to be settled? It takes more than growing crops for low cost sale in town, and the selling of hand crafted garments is offset by the costs of materials for construction of said garments. A 20 year old rarely comprehends this, a 50 year old does (which would account for the small number of people past 40 on communes).

Perfectly put.

 

[Northland]

Yet Obama won and got far and away the least proportion of votes from old folks that any President has gotten in a looong while...:shrug:


me thinks you're not as relevant anymore as you wish you were.

Silly lad.

Several years ago, Jesse Jackson managed to get the black vote to skyrocket for a year. Soon after, the black vote dwindled. The Rainbow Coalition still exists; but, much of its early success has fizzled away. Last year, there were many who had never voted before- some were just 18, some were facing their first round at a Presidential. Will they continue to vote? Will they be politically involved; or, will they follow the route of their parents and grandparents and become steadily disillusioned and not cast another vote for 30 years- if ever?

What has secured the recent Democratic victories (aside from the 1996 comedy where the Reps tried Bob Dole), has been successful advertising and a push to get people to vote. A push aimed, primarily at the youth and minorities (using the tactic that the Reps/Conservs. are against them) Rock The Vote was not aimed at men and women in their 40s and 50s (and older). The Rainbow Coalition is not aimed at the suburban white man or woman. The Republicans, do not make ads in that manner (they just send a scantily clad woman across the stage- Sarah Palin). The Republicans aim towards an informed by life group, and for some unknown reason, they do so without flashy lights and music- hmm...maybe because they're selling truth, not pipe-dreams.


The fact that neither Rock The Vote, nor The Rainbow Coalition is all inclusive, shows the holes in the capes of the 'all inclusive' imagery which the Dems attempt to hold up as their banner.

Anyway, you proved my point.

 

[Industrialsize]

I'm 52, a small business owner, worked for EVERYTHING I've gotten in life.......still a left wing liberal.

 

[Industrialsize]

Silly lad.

Several years ago, Jesse Jackson managed to get the black vote to skyrocket for a year. Soon after, the black vote dwindled. The Rainbow Coalition still exists; but, much of its early success has fizzled away. Last year, there were many who had never voted before- some were just 18, some were facing their first round at a Presidential. Will they continue to vote? Will they be politically involved; or, will they follow the route of their parents and grandparents and become steadily disillusioned and not cast another vote for 30 years- if ever?

What has secured the recent Democratic victories (aside from the 1996 comedy where the Reps tried Bob Dole), has been successful advertising and a push to get people to vote. A push aimed, primarily at the youth and minorities (using the tactic that the Reps/Conservs. are against them) Rock The Vote was not aimed at men and women in their 40s and 50s (and older). The Rainbow Coalition is not aimed at the suburban white man or woman. The Republicans, do not make ads in that manner (they just send a scantily clad woman across the stage- Sarah Palin). The Republicans aim towards an informed by life group, and for some unknown reason, they do so without flashy lights and music- hmm...maybe because they're selling truth, not pipe-dreams.


The fact that neither Rock The Vote, nor The Rainbow Coalition is all inclusive, shows the holes in the capes of the 'all inclusive' imagery which the Dems attempt to hold up as their banner.

Anyway, you proved my point.

The Republicans main campaign strategy is to propagate FEAR.

 

[B_starinvestor]

The Republicans main campaign strategy is to propagate FEAR.

What do you mean by this?

Because they are concerned about national defense?

Do you think the people of NYC had reason to be fearful when 747's were flying into buildings due to cracks in national defense?

 

[B_Nick8]

I'm 52, a small business owner, worked for EVERYTHING I've gotten in life.......still a left wing liberal.

That's because you managed to accomplish all that and still hold on to your heart.

What do you mean by this?

Because they are concerned about national defense?

Do you think the people of NYC had reason to be fearful when 747's were flying into buildings due to cracks in national defense?

A) Where is it written that liberalism and national defense are mutually exclusive?
B) Under whose watch did that happen [he asked, rhetorically]?

 

[Northland]

The Republicans main campaign strategy is to propagate FEAR.

Couldn't the same be said of the Democrats?

The Dems, repeatedly point that the Republicans won't help the poor and are anti-anything which ain't white (by the way, George W. Bush had the highest number and percentage of non-whites of any President). Health care goes bad- blame the Republicans. Too many illegals/bad reform bills and laws-blame the Republicans. Taxes need to go up- blame the Republicans. Nothing being done in either house (even with that magical Dem surplus) blame the Republcans! Wake up Industrialsize, smell the coffee burning. The Democrats, biggest tool is Fear. Their biggest problems are arrogance- they truly believe they are better than anyone else, and ignorance-they foolishly believe all the useless tripe exiting their mouths, from the idea that the economy is now miraculously healing (at the hands of Sumner and Geitner, two of the people who built the house of cards which then crumbled), to the idea that forcing health care on all of us is right (although they failed to first enact a law where there'd be a cap for insurance premium costs- more than half the states, have no limit on what can be charged).

 

[B_VinylBoy]

No - that's not the reason.

The reason is because they see where their contributions (taxes) go year after year, and it becomes tiresome. Further, they learn and begin to comprehend how the world works, and conservative values lend moreso to the continuation of growth and advancement of the country.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
My parents are well into their senior years and they still vote Democrat. My partner who is approaching his older years also tends to vote Democrat. That's despite the problems with our Congress and their struggles/failures.

that is not to excuse outright greed and negligent activity (i.e. Bear Stearns, Countrywide, et al.) but most of the conservative principles are more beneficial to the health of the U.S.

Too bad we know that living a life purely on ideology and principle doesn't get anything done. One of these days, you'll figure that out as well.

And with experience and time you will come to understand that.

I know enough not to bite the hand that tries to feed me. You do a wonderful job trying to use your ideology to preach about how Conservatives do more for this country than Liberals, but the last 4 decades have proven otherwise. What good is the talk when the actions don't add up? Don't blow smoke into my face about how you think everyone should be living their lives. What's next? You guys freed the slaves? Yeah, we heard that one too and people still voted against McCain. Get over it, dude.

 

[B_OtterJoq]

I'm 52, a small business owner, worked for EVERYTHING I've gotten in life.......still a left wing liberal.

49, own my own company (which in turn employs hundreds), worked for everything I'VE gotten in life, and I'm happy to help pay for a better state and country. One of the reasons I moved to Minnesota was the quality of life...schools, parks, sports, arts....but sadly, the current Republican governor thinks we can cut our way back to greatness. His policies have stifled growth by placing a greater and greater burden on local communities. Result? This is NOT the Minnesota I knew 30 years ago.

Fortunately, we're on the right track again...For the upcoming gubernatorial race, the MN GOP has nominated Tom Emmer, a right-wing nutjob who is on record as saying "I don't think you can be a good American and a Democrat."

He's toast.

Thank God.

 

[B_starinvestor]

A) Where is it written that liberalism and national defense are mutually exclusive?

It's not written, it is just understood siwwy wabbit

B) Under whose watch did that happen [he asked, rhetorically]?

Clinton.

:tongue:

 

[B_talltpaguy]

The fact that neither Rock The Vote, nor The Rainbow Coalition is all inclusive, shows the holes in the capes of the 'all inclusive' imagery which the Dems attempt to hold up as their banner.

Anyway, you proved my point.

Ah yes, because the rapidly growing and aging minority population will run, run, run to the Republican Party which has made it clear they are NOT welcome and their concerns will NOT be addressed by the Republican platform.

You know, because when you're a minority and one party is only giving you 2/3rds of what you seek in a political platform, obviously the best solution is to sidle up with a party that doesn't want you and largely constructs its platform based on issues that you have spent a lifetime opposing.

You're in for a rude awakening if you think that minority voters will just roll over for the Republican Party in the coming years.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

Where is it written that liberalism and national defense are mutually exclusive?

It's not written, it is just understood siwwy wabbit

Democratic Presidents Wilson, FDR, Truman and Johnson indicate otherwise. The only war we ever lost (Vietnam) was surrendered by a Republican... The only two wars we mismanaged in modern times (Iraq I&II) were on account of piss poor leadership by Republicans.

Oopsies!

 

[B_starinvestor]

Democratic Presidents Wilson, FDR, Truman and Johnson indicate otherwise. The only war we ever lost (Vietnam) was surrendered by a Republican...

Oopsies!

Democrats JFK and LBJ got us into Vietnam - and got us murdered - before the Democratic Congress voted to get us out by cutting funding in 1975.

Oopsies!

 

[Northland]

Silly lad.

Several years ago, Jesse Jackson managed to get the black vote to skyrocket for a year. Soon after, the black vote dwindled. The Rainbow Coalition still exists; but, much of its early success has fizzled away. Last year, there were many who had never voted before- some were just 18, some were facing their first round at a Presidential. Will they continue to vote? Will they be politically involved; or, will they follow the route of their parents and grandparents and become steadily disillusioned and not cast another vote for 30 years- if ever?

What has secured the recent Democratic victories (aside from the 1996 comedy where the Reps tried Bob Dole), has been successful advertising and a push to get people to vote. A push aimed, primarily at the youth and minorities (using the tactic that the Reps/Conservs. are against them) Rock The Vote was not aimed at men and women in their 40s and 50s (and older). The Rainbow Coalition is not aimed at the suburban white man or woman. The Republicans, do not make ads in that manner (they just send a scantily clad woman across the stage- Sarah Palin). The Republicans aim towards an informed by life group, and for some unknown reason, they do so without flashy lights and music- hmm...maybe because they're selling truth, not pipe-dreams.


The fact that neither Rock The Vote, nor The Rainbow Coalition is all inclusive, shows the holes in the capes of the 'all inclusive' imagery which the Dems attempt to hold up as their banner.

Anyway, you proved my point.

Before responding to your nearly incomprehensible post, I bolded above, the section you chose to quote prior to your response. I gave my entire earlier quote, as context is important.

Ah yes, because the rapidly growing and aging minority population will run, run, run to the Republican Party which has made it clear they are NOT welcome and their concerns will NOT be addressed by the Republican platform.

You know, because when you're a minority and one party is only giving you 2/3rds of what you seek in a political platform, obviously the best solution is to sidle up with a party that doesn't want you and largely constructs its platform based on issues that you have spent a lifetime opposing.

You're in for a rude awakening if you think that minority voters will just roll over for the Republican Party in the coming years.

The Republicans may not always be the most welcoming group; they are however, far more honest about how they feel towards me than the Democrats. The Republicans straight out say they don't trust me or my kind (did you fail to notice that I'm an Iraqi by birth and ****gasp**** a naturalized United States of America citizen?) and will be watching my every move closely. The Democrats claim they care, and then stick out their foot and laugh heartily as I fall. Then, the Democrat scoops me up and as they twst a knife in my back, dance in front of cameras telling the media that they are going to ensure a 'fair and just' trial for me (even though I've not been charged with anything- other than being non-white). But, hey, the Democrats will sell all my belongings to help me pay for my trial (after taking what they want for themselves). When I am released, the Democrats will babble how they knew I was innocent all along. The Republicans for their part, will continue to monitor me openly, and as long as I abide by the laws of the Natiion, they will leave me be. I- and many others, would rather have the honest distrust of the Republicans, than the fake blessings of the Democrats.

Over the years, I have voted both for Democrats and Republicans, my vote is based on reality and what is, not according to the yammerings of pundits-either left or right leaning. I look at a candidtates history, and if they've served in a political capacity, I look at their voting record.

As the song by The Undisputed Truth says: I tell you, you can't see behind smiling faces
Smiling faces sometimes they don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Tell lies and I got proof

Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes
They don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Tell lies and I got proof
(Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes) (2 x)
I'm telling you beware, beware of the handshake
That hides the snake
Listen to me now, beware
Beware of that pat on the back
It just might hold you back
Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes
They don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Tell lies and I got proof

Your enemy won't do you no harm
Cause you'll know where he's coming from
Don't let the handshake and the smile fool ya
Take my advice I'm only tryin' to school ya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV69WBvFGBA

 

[B_Nick8]

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It's not written, it is just understood siwwy wabbit

Misunderstood, perhaps.

Clinton.

:tongue:

All well and goody. By that logic, we get to blame any security breach that happens under the Obama administration on Bush. And the successes are his alone. :wink:

 

[Northland]

All well and goody. By that logic, we get to blame any security breach that happens under the Obama administration on Bush. And the successes are his alone. :wink:

AHA! So you admit George had successes!

 

[B_starinvestor]

All well and goody. By that logic, we get to blame any security breach that happens under the Obama administration on Bush. And the successes are his alone. :wink:

Have it your way.

BTW see a switch in the %'s....

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Northland: Watching you bellow this wishful thinking of minorities abandoning the Democratic party is beyond laughable.

For the last few decades, Republicans have not been able to convince or win over any real majority in any racial demographic in the minority. Even the RNC Chair openly admitted that their strategy has been geared to target Southern Caucasians. Even if Republicans are more honest about what they don't like, their honesty is what's giving them a bad name. They're admitting that unless you look like them, speak like them and worship like them that they don't want you. And yet, somehow you think some disgruntled Latino, Black, Asian or other minority is going to look at a television screen, see an image where more than 95% of the people they point to are Caucasian, listen to them suggest discriminatory legislation that unfairly target minorities repeatedly, and jump over to the other side?

I said this in a previous thread, and I think it deserves repeating...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You can stop dreaming and come back to reality. You don't win over a social demographic by preaching equality and doing nothing about it. That's Election 101. So go ahead... tell the Latinos who had to sit back and watch paranoid Republicans try and skewer Sotomayor for rhetorical nonsense about "wise Latinas" that they have more in common with themselves instead of the opposition. Keep telling black and women voters they're equal and how Affirmative Action hurts them, meanwhile do nothing to help promote equal pay for equal work and promote a workforce that still grants caucasian men more than 75% of the top paying jobs in America. Keep telling parents of children that everyone has the same opportunities at their doorstep, meanwhile they have to watch their kids go through metal detectors to get to school and use an aged, 10 year old computer that can't even search the web to do their schoolwork while others get the latest learning materials delivered to them every year. And when the articulate negro wins again in 2012, I'll simply sit back and laugh at your ass.

That's some reality for you. You can stop telling us what you dream at night.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

As the song by The Undisputed Truth

Since a music band wrote a song about it, it OBVIOUSLY MUST BE TRUE!

lololol... Dance boy, dance.:dance:

 

[Northland]

Since a music band wrote a song about it, it OBVIOUSLY MUST BE TRUE!

lololol... Dance boy, dance

The words, follow the truth of the words. Let me get somebody to help you read them. Words are written, based upon truth.