Obamascare could bankrupt the country - MA State Treasurer over Mass Care

[B_Nick4444]

FYI, the country is already bankrupt so who gives a fuck

probably the perfect slogan for the lib dem party -- I can see it tattooed on Pelosi and Owe-bama

 

[StormfrontFL]

The neocons have already proven to be sore losers after the general election. The bitterness last night is probably a sign of things to come:

Funny how none of the neocon have yet to respond to my question as to why Obama's plan is socialism but Clinton's wasn't. Are they busy trying to come up with new ways to deny race wasn't a factor?

 

[conntom]

HCR...heck yes.


This particular bill and turning over the healthcare system to the people who can not run a DMV properly........No. NO WAY!!!

 

[StormfrontFL]

probably the perfect slogan for the lib dem party -- I can see it tattooed on Pelosi and Owe-bama

Republican Party tattoo ideas

God hates gays and so do I
Only God can take a life (so no abortions but the death penalty is okay)
I look out for #1 so the rest of the world can go fuck themselves
White makes right

 

[deleted15807]

FYI, the country is already bankrupt so who gives a fuck

The country is not bankrupt. There is just no political will to right the nations finances. If on one side of the equation people demand that government keep providing services while on the other side of the equation the same people do not want to pay for it, therein lies the problem and throw in the ability to cover this inconsistency by borrowing the money and you have a problem. War is free, tax cuts are free, everything is free. Well no it isn't.

 

[captain garbonzo]

Republican Party tattoo ideas

God hates gays and so do I

White makes right

Really? You're forgetting that blacks were the #1 minority in California that voted FOR proposition 8 and then latinos. That's probably more than a few democrats in there showing anti-gay bias, no? Ignorance is bliss. Not all conservatives are racist or homophobic...just as there are plenty of liberals who are. Labeling racists and homophobics into one political party shows YOUR bias. Which in turn makes you the same as those you criticise.

Proposition 8 exit poll: Whites oppose, blacks support, Latinos divided | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

 

[captain garbonzo]

The country is not bankrupt.

So you say. There are many who think that California is busted. #1 economy in the USA and #8 in the world. That's not too good, is it? And it looks like we won't be getting any aid from Washington.

Has the Golden State gone bust? - SFGate


I say just pass this fucking health care and get it over with. Only one way to find out what's gonna happen...why not? We have been spending this way for years. Why not go for broke?

 

[Industrialsize]

The latest news is 222 votes in Favor!

 

[B_Nick4444]

I'm so terribly frightened

 

[deleted15807]

So you say. There are many who think that California is busted. #1 economy in the USA and #8 in the world. That's not too good, is it? And it looks like we won't be getting any aid from Washington.

Has the Golden State gone bust? - SFGate


I say just pass this fucking health care and get it over with. Only one way to find out what's gonna happen...why not? We have been spending this way for years. Why not go for broke?

California is prime example of what I'm talking about. Thanks to California's many propositions (Proposition 13 being the main culprit) the government is UNABLE to raise taxes to fund operations. So you get a sea of red ink when the inevitable recessions hit.

Six reasons why California is ungovernable

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Really? You're forgetting that blacks were the #1 minority in California that voted FOR proposition 8 and then latinos. That's probably more than a few democrats in there showing anti-gay bias, no? Ignorance is bliss. Not all conservatives are racist or homophobic...just as there are plenty of liberals who are. Labeling racists and homophobics into one political party shows YOUR bias. Which in turn makes you the same as those you criticise.

Proposition 8 exit poll: Whites oppose, blacks support, Latinos divided | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

You really want to go there?
The amount of voters that decided the fate of Prop 8 in California was roughly more than 13.4 Million people. It passed by a slim margin of 52.2% to 47.8%. From a racial standpoint, 63% of the total voters were white. Only 10 percent of voters were Black/African American and 18 percent were Latino. Local Exit Polls - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

Here are some more statistics for you to chew on:
85% of voters identifying themselves as evangelical or born-again Christians voted "yes". Of non-evangelical Christians polled, 42% voted yes. 77% of Republicans in the poll voted yes. 85% of John McCain supporters voted yes. 62% of those without a college degree voted yes. http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_8_(2008)

So, were blacks (or minorities) responsible for passing Prop 8 as you are implying? The answer is no. Overall, minorities made up a considerable less amount of the vote and to scapegoat them as being the problem is bullshit. Religious belief is the problem here, because that is the only thing that plays an underlaying factor in all of these votes regardless of their skin color.

Don't talk about someone else's political vices if you're then going to twist the same futile statistics to make some pathetic political point with no real standing. Being that I'm gay and black, I can tell you (whatever race or political affiliation you are), that NO RACE should be trying to exonerate themselves for the passing of this bill. And I'm a Christian too, so let's not get this twisted.

 

[lucky8]

U.S., U.K. Move Closer to Losing Rating, Moody?s Says (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

According to Moody's, we're about to lose our AAA rating. Perhaps it's time to prosecute this fraudulent company already?

 

[deleted15807]

U.S., U.K. Move Closer to Losing Rating, Moody?s Says (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

According to Moody's, we're about to lose our AAA rating. Perhaps it's time to prosecute this fraudulent company already?

Yes this is the same company that gave AAA ratings to those garbage mortgage securities that helped trigger the financial collapse. Many are suing but so far no big wins. That shouldn't be a surprise the guilty, especially white collar crimes, often walk away only to earn big bucks in the process.

 

[StormfrontFL]

Really? You're forgetting that blacks were the #1 minority in California that voted FOR proposition 8 and then latinos. That's probably more than a few democrats in there showing anti-gay bias, no? Ignorance is bliss. Not all conservatives are racist or homophobic...just as there are plenty of liberals who are. Labeling racists and homophobics into one political party shows YOUR bias. Which in turn makes you the same as those you criticise.

Proposition 8 exit poll: Whites oppose, blacks support, Latinos divided | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

Good attempt to deflect. Yes bigots exist in both parties but only one party makes a concerted effort to court those with bigoted thoughts. Was it the Dems that wanted to push a Constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage? Do the Dems have a history of using anti gay rhetoric in their advertising? Do the Dems use racially divisive messages?
As for the "White is Right" attempt to explain why the Republican Party is overwhelmingly white. It seems possible to count the number of black faces seen at the Republican convention on 2 hands.

 

[B_Marius567]

Under the Baucus plan, insurers selling a plan costing more than $8,000 for an individual and $21,000 for a family would have to pay a 35 percent excise tax on the excess amount.

get in to a lower cost plan ASAP!!!!

If you make over 250.000 a year try to make less so you wont pay heath tax

 

[B_dxjnorto]

We've needed to standardize and cost cut for decades. I know government can mess things up but standardization and cost cutting are two likely outcomes. It'll probably get boondoggled some other way, but I say let's go for it and see what happens. Why this rabid response to what most European countries have had for decades?

 

[ZOS23xy]

I'm so terribly frightened

Have a beer and cry into it.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

Have a beer and cry into it.

Is that a good cure for fearmongering?

 

[ZOS23xy]

You'll forget the fear and have another beer.

 

[ZOS23xy]

We've needed to standardize and cost cut for decades. I know government can mess things up but standardization and cost cutting are two likely outcomes. It'll probably get boondoggled some other way, but I say let's go for it and see what happens. Why this rabid response to what most European countries have had for decades?

Certain numbers of pompous right wing talk show hosts have been getting the idea through to their semi literate audiences that Obama plans to move towards socialism.

Glen Beck said to his listeners, in so many words...if your preacher begins to talk of charity and health care...get up and leave. It's an invitation to socialism.