Obscenity Laws Ruled Unconstitutional

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  1. MisterMark

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    Wow, that's amazing in our current political climate. Lets' see how it holds up through the appeals, but even a small victory can be an important one.
     
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    Fantastic news. I'm wondering, if the case makes it as far as the Supreme Court, if Dim Son will push to go ahead and replace Rehnquist so as to avoid a 4-4 deadlock.

    Coincidentally, I was reading up just this weekend on the 1958 One, Inc. vs. Oleson case, in which SCOTUS ruled that merely having homosexual content was not sufficient proof that a mailing was obscene. What a nice followup!
     
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    Well, it was only in district court, so it was a long road to the Supreme Court. Now the government would have to start all over, so it probably wouldn't make it to the top until after Bush leaves office anyway. Who knows how many justices Bush will have the chance to appoint though. Pretty much everyone thought there would be retirements during his first term and it didn't happen.

    It's good in the sense that Rob Black makes some really fucked up movies. He's willing to depict rapes, murder, blood, vomit, all sorts of crazy stuff that even most porn fans are revolted by. That a judge decided that even this doesn't qualify as obscene means that pretty much all pornmakers are in the clear, at least for now.
     
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    Not really. You can't depict stars who didn't consent.
     
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    IMHO, if no laws were broken in the making of the films, it should be legal. Fake rape, blood, vomit and bile can be easily avoided if one simply doesn't buy or view it. If the stars consent, and are of age to do so, we vote with our money.
     
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    Well, Jana, this was coming; a couple years ago, the Supreme Court ruled that digital manipulations of pornography in order to make the participants appear underage, as well as pornographic drawings and literature involving underage characters, were legal.

    Art itself is always legal, unless its creation involves doing something illegal.
     
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    Or unless you live in Ohio where Mapplethorpe's exhibition was shut down! This place really blows sometimes.
     
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    Or unless you live in Ohio where Mapplethorpe's exhibition was shut down! This place really blows sometimes.
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    Poor Jana! Well, I could always say "You should move" but the truth is that Ohio needs more people like you. :)
     
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    Poor Jana! Well, I could always say "You should move" but the truth is that Ohio needs more people like you. :)
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    I love you, guy! :wub:

    Ohio's not been too kind, but I'm used to it by now. I raise my rabble when I can. I sell costumes, so I'm doing my bit to spread smut! I actually had a law passed in Norther Kentucky in my honour that said (in additon to the already existing long list of dress requirements for strippers at the time) that there could also be "no simulated nudity", because I started making costumes with nipples painted on the bras and fun fur sewn in a neat little patch on the g-string!
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    Did I read correctly laws stipulating "dress requirements for strippers"?
    I was not aware that such laws were necessary. It would appear that the word strip would indicate the state of dress that would ulitmately prevail on the stage. Perhaps the laws should read rules to "prevent stripping by people prone to strip."
     
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    U.S.A. :D !!!
     
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    Oh beautiful for-spacious thighs
    O'er amber waves of hair
    O'er pubic mountain's majesty
    Ne'er known the touch of Nair
    A mer-er-kin, a mer-er-kin
    Man did the curls on thee
    To try to hide the way inside
    Prudes don't want to see

    Okay, now that I've got that randomness out of my head . . .
     
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    WTF?? That's hilarious! Your own composition, or did you find that somewhere?
     
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    Got it off rec.music.filk. It's apparently been going around since at least 1992.

    But I already told you the origin of the g-string. (And told KinkGuy the origin of chaps.)
     
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    Yes, and I haven't stopped thinking of you in one since. :lol:

    Don't ever post your pics, I'm having too much fun with my imagination...
     
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    NineInchCock_160IQ:
    What do you mean by that Zora? Republicans control everything right now and it is conservatives who are the traditional defenders of free speech. Prominent Dems like Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman are responsible for such attacks on the first ammendment as the naughty language stickers on CDs and the pointless and ultimately futile campaign to take down Mortal Kombat. It is liberal organizations who have in the past forced everyone to be politically correct and watch what they say or else face lawsuits for sexual harrassment or discrimination. Whether you agree with this agenda or not it doesn't make much sense to say that seeing an attack against free speech struck down is unusual given the day's political climate. Even though religious conservatives seem to be increasingly more and more influential in right-wing politics, they have not yet completely undermined everything the Republican party stands for.


    on a side note, I myself have no political affiliation. But I am for free speech and against "obscenity" laws.
     
  18. madame_zora

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    Oh, i'll stand firmly behind that statement, NineInch. Tipper was a figurehead, and while I agree an awful one, not very representative of the Democratic party. To say right-wingers ahven't completely taken over the Republican party makes you more of an optimist than me! You are right, the Repubs control everything, the media, the medical profession, insurance, the stock market. Damn, they even put the magical voting machines in place with a promise from Debold to "deliver Ohio" for bush!

    I would love to get into this more, as I respect your posts in other threads, but it is very late and I am almost out of ammo as to why I hate the repubs/right-wingers/fundies for now. IMHO, they are one and the same.
     
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    Just wait a few hours. They'll offer up lots more, so much in fact, I can't even keep score of who should be in prison on any given day.
     
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    Oh, you might like Christine Todd Whitman's new book It's My Party Too.
     
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