Official Faces Firing Over Planned Sex Change

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  1. Lex

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    Wow. Let's wipe away stellar service because someone wants to be true to themselves.
     
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    C'mon, Lex, where's your sense of justice? Gotta love those "without cause" clauses in contracts, right? No one ever really seems to wonder why those are in a contract, but I think it becomse pretty obvious; it's to cover overt bigotry or filthy politics. My logic? If any person has done a stellar job for any amount of time, and the job perfomance reviews are excellent, then that person is suddenly terminated "without cause", what other reason could there possibly be? When I was working in the "tech industry," I had a manager who was kinda like that, except our company did not have a "without cause" clause. So she made sure that someone she wanted to get rid of got one vaguely defined, but poorly rated annual review. 8 out of 10 on every review you've gotten over the past 7 years, then suddenly a 4 out of 10? How obvious is that? That wasn't me, but it happened to a friend of mine who didn't properly play (read: participate in) the office politics.
     
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    Yup. Assholes.
     
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    As far back as I can remember, I have just not been able to understand how a person in charge would rather have a mediocre sycophant than an outstanding individual. It just does not make sense.
     
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    Oh, c'mon, DC. If someone decides to change their sex it must mean they're incompetent and won't make rational decisions in the line of duty. I thought everyone knew that. :rolleyes:

    And people wonder why it's sometimes difficult to come out of the closet...
     
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    wow i used to live right near largo in fact right accross the bridge from largo I thought they were pretty open minded there
     
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    That's really stupid. At least the man isn't a towel boy in a men's lockerroom.
     
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    People are so judgemental. Why can't we all just let each other be?
     
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    My heart goes out to someone like this who has to go to such lenghts to become a whole person. I feel this person will win in the end. It may take time. They will win in the end.........
     
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    That is unfortunate.

    I know personally of a situation where two individuals met and eventually married; both were male. Before the marriage, however, one of the guys was going through the process of changing his sexual identity. He had lived as a woman for years and most knew of him as a woman. His partner, consequently, was in the military. Long story short... he proceeded to have the surgery but had already did extensive research with marriage license here in NC as well as other pertinent information so they could move on with their plans. Upon his arrival back from having the procedure, they were married - all legally done and binding in NC.

    Now that he has altered his sex, he has to have a GYN (as well as still see a male doctor - prostate). His hubby was still in the military but his GYN released information concerning his transformation. Individuals from the millitary received it and immediately called into question the marriage and the entire situation. They could not challenge their marriage, however, they did challenge their relationship prior. Neither confirmed they were together prior to the surgery either.

    His hubby was forced to agree to leave the military. They gave him an honorable discharge, but released him with NO spousal benefits. I was personally graven by the situation as I know both individuals and the situation. They have decided against fighting it because of the publicity it would/could generate.

    We do live in a screwed up society.
     
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    That is the most fucked up story I had heard in some time. Damn.
     
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    Ain't discrimination a hoot? The transgendered individuals I know (3 are now female, 1 is now a male) are normal people, hard working and respectful of otheres. Perhaps what Stanton is going through and having it publicised will alert people to the fact that being true to ones self does not make a person incompetent.

    Why are people so hateful and hurtful of those who are being honest about who they are? I have seen it up close, when a guy I knew went through all the procedures to complete his sex change. These days she is a fabulously charming woman (although she seems a little too focussed on her hair). The main thing, is that for 20 years I knew her as a sad defeated man and now I see a confident woman--what's wrong with that? Nothing wrong with that, nothing at all except when ignorant fools step into the picture and make all sorts of comments about the person, none of them good. One of the biggest offenders is a guy who works in the mental health field and makes disparraging remarks about a transgendered person we both know. It sickens me that people are willing to discriminate so easily--have they forgotten what it is like to be discriminated against?--And most people have been at some time in some way.




    (hey don't all act so surprised, I have met persons other than the folks here and the folks living under the bridge sleeping in cardboard huts.)
     
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    I am blown away by your words of support for my trans-sister...
     
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    Acceptance and support are what it is truly all about--in that final picture we are all equal and should share the field of life equally.
     
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    Isn't the USA supposed to be the "land of the free and the home of the brave"?

    We have a charter of rights in Canada as part of our constitution. In fact it will be 25 years old this week.

    It is illegal to fire anyone without cause period.

    Novaboy
     
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    Transsexualism is new. A lot of people don't understand. Christine Jorgensen was the first male to female gender reaasignment surgery case of transsexualism.

    In North Carolina, they can fire you for any reason as well. (Outside of the EEOC "Equal Employment Opportunity Commission guidelines, that is..).
    They can't fire you because of race, age, gender, or creed. But the burden of proof is on you to prove it. (They can fire because of that and divert-blame on something else. Yeah, you have the law.)

    I wished that people were less uptight and judgmental over people's differences. I think that some aren't very tolerable because they don't know any better and they were taught to be that way. Honestly, when I came out as gay to my mom, she thought I wanted to be a woman. I told her that I was VERY happy with my penis and with my gender. "What does a 50 plus year old heterosexual woman know about being a gay man if she was told that gay men want to be women?"

    Kinsey was right about people aren't really knowledgeable and aware about human sexuality. Human sexuality encompasses a lot of scope and territory than just heterosexual sex. There is a lot I am not used to. But I deal with it. I think humans are the best exercises for tolerance. If you are in the dating scene--you will learn from every person you date. I do.
    And I do honestly deal with the bad.

    [Interesting factoid about Invisibleman: He had an OVERLY well-endowed boyfriend who considered gender reassignment surgery. The boyfriend EVENTUALLY changed his mind...for unknown reasons. Now, the guy is a buffed out stud. (I always told him could be a porn star with that cock.)]
     
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    She might have been a very good "towel boy" ...
     
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