Ohio goes blue.

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NBC and Fox have called Ohio for Obama.

If Obama retains all of the Kerry states, he'll have enough electoral votes to win.
 

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game over.

now i can go to sleep, knowing for sure which party will be wrecking the country for the next 4 years after the previous party wrecked it for the past 8 years.

ah the two party system.

and people wonder why "change" does not happen.
 
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I hear he's sending Sarah Palin to California right now to remind people about William Ayers.

</snork>

She better stay AWAY from West Hollywood. Isn't that where they hung her?
 

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On a happy personal note, my home county, which went for Bush 54%-45% in 2004, flipped and supported Obama 51%-48% with all votes reported except for provisional ballots.
 

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Congrats to Obama. I hope he wins Florida too.
 

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well with a bit over 50% of the vote counted nationally, Obama leads only 50%-49%.

that will extend a bit in California etc, while the night goes on, but it is clear that while this looks to be a very large electoral win, the huge margins in the popularvote do not look to be appearing at all....52-53% which i think Obama will end with, is hardly a gigantic victory...

frankly, as a neutral, it shows me still, that even with a totally uninspired republican candidate, riding the unfortunate coattails of the worst president in the history of the United States, and a republican congress failing miserably and in the middle of what will develop into an even worse economic crisis, for all the talk about how inspirational Obama is, in national polls, it is still a very small margin.

it was not a landslide or a techtonic shift in the popular vote, even with the millions of newly registered voters...

it states exactly what i have been thinking as an independent, based on the utter incompetence and corruption of these two parties, and it is this:

Just because the republicans *ABSOLUTELY* deserve to lose, does not mean that the democrats deserve to win.

that is a fact.

to suggest either one of these parties is the answer to the problems in washington is utterly blinkered and sad.


This shows that even as charismatic and cool and intelligent and energetic Obama is, all the excitement and hype was the product of alot of media fawning media attention and wild enthusiasm from his ocean of supporters.

He is charismatic, smart, a good speaker, accomplished and a host of other positive qualities...but even still, it took a Bush created economic meltdown to secure his election, and it was not secured until the meltdown in mid-september.

The youth vote was 21% of the election and they were overwhelmingly for Obama...which proves just how ignorant the youth are. If they had wanted real change, the last thing the young should trust is the establishment, and for all his high minded and charismatic talk, Obama, still represents the establishment, absolutely. He may be new on thescene, but make no mistake, this is simply the establishment changing hands from one party to another, nothing more than a switchover of the stranglehold of power.

If young people wanted true "Change", voting for democrats or republicans isn't it.

I have little faith in youth if this is their idea of "change"
the same thinbg happened in 92...i was 21 and in college, we were "Gen X". We were the new lost youth, we were aimless, we liked starbucks, we were the MTV generation, we had Kurt Cobain, we were slackers, we were too into the internet and the new economy

GHW Bush came off as the old and tired establishment candidate, and all the youth found a new, hip, charismatic leader who answered questions about his underwear...

so all the young kids voted for him...even though he only got 43% of the vote...but ultimately, he changed very little about the establishment. Neither of these parties ever does.

true change is never the mantra of the establishment, and if kids think they will be getting true change they are sorely mistaken.

I will say this again...

just because the republicans deserved to lose, does not mean that the democrats deserved to win.
 

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well with a bit over 50% of the vote counted nationally, Obama leads only 50%-49%.

that will extend a bit in California etc, while the night goes on, but it is clear that while this looks to be a very large electoral win, the huge margins in the popularvote do not look to be appearing at all....52-53% which i think Obama will end with, is hardly a gigantic victory...

frankly, as a neutral, it shows me still, that even with a totally uninspired republican candidate, riding the unfortunate coattails of the worst president in the history of the United States, and a republican congress failing miserably and in the middle of what will develop into an even worse economic crisis, for all the talk about how inspirational Obama is, in national polls, it is still a very small margin.

it was not a landslide or a techtonic shift in the popular vote, even with the millions of newly registered voters...

it states exactly what i have been thinking as an independent, based on the utter incompetence and corruption of these two parties, and it is this:

Just because the republicans *ABSOLUTELY* deserve to lose, does not mean that the democrats deserve to win.

that is a fact.

to suggest either one of these parties is the answer to the problems in washington is utterly blinkered and sad.


This shows that even as charismatic and cool and intelligent and energetic Obama is, all the excitement and hype was the product of alot of media fawning media attention and wild enthusiasm from his ocean of supporters.

He is charismatic, smart, a good speaker, accomplished and a host of other positive qualities...but even still, it took a Bush created economic meltdown to secure his election, and it was not secured until the meltdown in mid-september.

The youth vote was 21% of the election and they were overwhelmingly for Obama...which proves just how ignorant the youth are. If they had wanted real change, the last thing the young should trust is the establishment, and for all his high minded and charismatic talk, Obama, still represents the establishment, absolutely. He may be new on thescene, but make no mistake, this is simply the establishment changing hands from one party to another, nothing more than a switchover of the stranglehold of power.

If young people wanted true "Change", voting for democrats or republicans isn't it.

I have little faith in youth if this is their idea of "change"
the same thinbg happened in 92...i was 21 and in college, we were "Gen X". We were the new lost youth, we were aimless, we liked starbucks, we were the MTV generation, we had Kurt Cobain, we were slackers, we were too into the internet and the new economy

GHW Bush came off as the old and tired establishment candidate, and all the youth found a new, hip, charismatic leader who answered questions about his underwear...

so all the young kids voted for him...even though he only got 43% of the vote...but ultimately, he changed very little about the establishment. Neither of these parties ever does.

true change is never the mantra of the establishment, and if kids think they will be getting true change they are sorely mistaken.

I will say this again...

just because the republicans deserved to lose, does not mean that the democrats deserved to win.


This dissertation has come a bit too early, Flash. The "big states" are coming in and the pop vote will now begin to widen. Obama will emerge with a mandate and add to that, the gains in the senate & house and we (the dems) have shaped a transformational election. Pelosi holds the purse strings; unadulterated. The dems can now enact virtually any peice of legislature they want.

You are right, tough... the dems don't deserve it; they EARNED IT.
 

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Ohio for Obama. Amazing! My county went red, but that is no surprise. My Obama sign was gone the morning after I put it by the road.