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Discussion in 'Politics' started by ripsrips, Sep 8, 2008.
MSNBC says Olbermann, Matthews won't anchor - Yahoo! News
they want interviews with Palin. So they have subjugated to demands.
Press is getting played like a fiddle.
That article is kind of vague about what exactly happened over at MSNBC. Buried in the third paragraph, for example, is the detail:
In other words, the "demotion" (more about that later) lasts for exactly five days: September 26, October 2, October 7, October 15, and November 4, the dates of the presidential debates, the vice-presidential debate, and the general election.
And even then, Olbermann and Matthews have been retained "as commentators" during these events: in other words, they'll be allowed to have opinions and be themselves, instead of being expected to feign neutrality.
I'd say this isn't a demotion, so much as an un-gagging. We'll probably find out on 9/26.
Come on, admit it. Palin's so powerful, she can have anchors demoted in a single bound.
MSNBC wanted their stars, Matthews and Olbermann, to impartially cover election results. However, they are both famous because they don't pretend to be impartial.
The network wanted their starts to have more air time. OK, that's understandable. They wanted them to do stuff that was not what their fans wanted them to do. OK, get David Gregory over here to do that impartial stuff, then.
its the same tactic the Bush administration used to whip the media in line for Iraq. Deny access, and the reporters will negotiate. It is a reporter's job to report on the presidency, if they are denied access, they are finished.
Soooo....... when is Fox News going to demote O'Riely and Hanity for there bias? Oh right...
It's only a bias when it's bias towards liberals. When Fox has been spewing out partisan crap for over 10 years it's totally fine...
Well, tonight's the vice-presidential debate: Let's look at that demotion one more time. Here's tonight's schedule on MSNBC:
6:00 Race To The White House with David Gregory
7:00 Hardball with Chris Matthews
8:00 Countdown with Keith Olbermann
9:00 Vice-Presidential Debate
10:30 Post-Debate analysis with David Gregory
11:00 Countdown with Keith Olbermann
12:00 Hardball with Chris Matthews
The 11:00 Countdown is not an encore of the 8:00 broadcast, but a "special edition". I don't know if the 12:00 Hardball is an encore or not.
In any case, we have tonight:
David Gregory: 90 minutes
Keith Olbermann: 120 minutes
Chris Matthews: 120 minutes
Some demotion, huh?
Well, Heath, let's just say that they are no longer commentators working live on the same stage at the same time.
Being relegated back to their own shows preserves their original roles on the network in an effort by the network to feign objectivity (or at least to make it less the story than the event they're covering.)
i've mastered the art of Tivo and watch both Billo and Keith at the same time. its fun to watch each of them tell 'the same story' but with their differing points of view.
That doesn't, like, make your TV explode or something?
I can't STAND David Gregory!
Ummmm. CBS, NBC, NPR, CNN, and ABC have been leaning left for decades. CBS got caught red-handed. Then they went all in, when they grabbed Couric. CNN... disgusting.
The scale in nowhere near tilted kiddo.
Gregory is ok. He is more news and factual vs opinion.
We may wait a long time for another Tim Russert.
David Gergen is it, but he's an ex-advisor (to Clinton, Reagan, Bush sr, Carter)... but too old, semi-retired... and not into being a journalist, much less his presentation sytle.
faceking: I would appreciate it that if you use psychiatrically-demeaning labels like "lunatic" to describe these professionals, you not do so within a quotation that makes it appear that I was making these judgements.
I think it's quite fair.
Conservatives do most of their psychological damage on the radio. We liberals get to do it with pictures. A fair trade off for anyone who'd rather focus on conspiracy theories!! :biggrin1:
Olbermann and Matthews would be like having O'Reilly or Hannity or Lou Dobbs hosting it.
there is a reason why Air America failed miserably on radio.... because the left already had a radio outlet in pretty much every "news talk" radio station in the country.
you'd think after 8 years of bush... someone, anyone would of taken off as a "liberal outlet".
they didn't because all of mainstream radio/media was already left.
you don't listen much me thinks.
Hannity = blatant conservative, but digestible
O'Reilly = conservative, but EXTREMELY fair 99% of the time, thusly why he was pretty much the only Fox character Obama would interview with, and be honest, that interview went quite well/professiona.
Dobbs = are you kidding. I have zero clue what side he is on. he is just bitter 110% of the time. that's his schtick. it's old, it's tired, and bitter. he can't find any good in anything.
Matthews = blatantly liberal, but digestable
Olbermann = a loon, way beyond Rush, more like Michael Savage or Maddow.
I thought it was because Democrats owned more TVs?
I'm sure he didn't even know what a TV was.
With the world needing pretty pictures, how do you think a political show featuring the cantankerous blither and excessive girth of Rush Limbaugh would fair?
And yeah, damn ALL those left-wingers in the media. Fox news. The Morton Downey Jr Show. The 700 Club. SO liberal!