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Among all the 911 begins eps, i think Buck eps is the weakest one. Its so anticlimatic, its more like buckley sibling begins. Those moment when Buck trapped is just....not it. Sksksks. The whole team reaction also look like they dont give a shit lmaooo. Its the worst 911 begins eps.

The best one is still athena begins. Thats just so good
 
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aliando12 said:
Among all the 911 begins eps, i think Buck eps is the weakest one. Its so anticlimatic, its more like buckley sibling begins. Those moment when Buck trapped is just....not it. Sksksks. The whole team reaction also look like they dont give a shit lmaooo. Its the worst 911 begins eps.

The best one is still athena begins. Thats just so good
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You know what I think they should’ve did? They should’ve made it to where he had a twin. And they grew up together but one was dangerous and he caused an accident which kind of made Buck forget him. So he’s locked away somewhere else. But then he comes home. Whether or not he’s rehabilitated is yet to be seen. But I think that would’ve caused some interesting drama. Of course Oliver would have to do a dual role. But I like the thought of it. A long lost evil twin? Seems interesting. But that’s just me. Haven’t seen the episode yet, now I’m curious.
 
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Among all the 911 begins eps, i think Buck eps is the weakest one. Its so anticlimatic, its more like buckley sibling begins. Those moment when Buck trapped is just....not it. Sksksks. The whole team reaction also look like they dont give a shit lmaooo. Its the worst 911 begins eps.

The best one is still athena begins. Thats just so good
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Yes 100%. One thing i absolutely hated was the time period they skipped of him going from career to career and state to state. Instead they just give us fucking post cards with a mediocre voice over. No shade towards Oliver but the voice over was just odd to me.
 
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So your misunderstanding of what is and is not racism is actually very common and one of the reasons why so many people are so against the institutional change that is frankly necessary to help right the centuries of wrongdoing against Black people. Firstly, assuming you're a white person (or at least not Black), you may think that you know what racism is, but as someone who has never experienced it directed towards them (or even the specific racism towards Black people if you are a non-Black POC), you do not. Secondly, racism is not always obvious. While being verbally and physically abusive towards someone because of their race is indeed racism, so is making assumptions about someone based on their race or generalizing about an entire group of people. For example, it is racist to say you are not attracted to Black men. Black people don't all look alike, they don't all have the same characteristics. Therefore, to write off an entire race of people as "unattractive" is racist, despite what some masc white gays might think/say. Although not finding Black men attractive might not seem harmful, it has the effect of "othering", and thus dehumanizing them. Additionally, though people might say their reasoning is based on physical preference, it is more likely to be a result of societal pressures and norms to which that person has been exposed. This is the same reason why many white Americans generalize about black people as being poor, lazy, etc. It is also the reason why many Black people have negative opinions of their own appearance. Through media, historical narratives, even toys, white American society reinforces stereotypes as well as the idea of white people being the default and preferable to other kinds of people. If we go back to the issue at hand, the controversy seems to stem from Guzman's wife (who is from Brazil, a country well known for its racism and for being the last country in the western world to abolish slavery in 1888) calling people the n-word on social media and in person. Although her intent may not have been racist (although this is debatable), the action itself is still racist. The n-word developed into a slur because white Europeans used it to demean Black slaves during the colonial period. Therefore, its use by a white (or non-Black) person, in any context, is still racist.
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The n-word is a slur that should really not be used by anyone, IMO. There is no way to diminish or control or contain the negativity and pain that its history encapsulates. If it were only used in the Black community in a friendly way (with the "a" on the end, not the "er") there may be some argument for diminishing its power to hurt, but it is too often used in the Black/POC community to denigrate in the same way that white Europeans used it in the past. This word will always be a powder keg.

From what I have read of the Ryan Guzman situation, he jumped online to defend his fiance/wife/girlfriend when old tweets of her using the n-word surfaced. I read some of her tweets and I do not think her intent was in a negative racist way, but she was overstepping the boundaries of what is acceptable -- whether that was because she was dating a Black man and thought it was OK or something else, she was wrong. Ryan blundered in his defense of her, but I honestly don't think he is racist either.

I don't think that a person can only know what racism is by experiencing it directed toward them. I do think that racism is not always obvious and therefore, people should listen when someone points it out. That said, I also think that when a person THINKS they understand a different culture and makes a mistake, they should be given the opportunity to learn from that mistake and evolve.
 
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In the last episode they shot Eddie, so there goes our hopes for him becoming bi.

That editing tho... how are we supposed to think his character is not in love with Eddie?

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In the last episode they shot Eddie, so there goes our hopes for him becoming bi.

That editing tho... how are we supposed to think his character is not in love with Eddie?

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Dammit, 9-1-1's really queerbaiting us with Buddie 'til the end. They'll prolly kill off Eddie because of the backlash Ryan had or for whatever other reason (they seem to be on a roll as they just killed off Charles in the Lone Star spinoff lol)
Anyways, Oliver was really cute in that scene with that shocked look on his face... also, the staredown between them was :emoji_ok_hand:
 
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In the last episode they shot Eddie, so there goes our hopes for him becoming bi.

That editing tho... how are we supposed to think his character is not in love with Eddie?

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.....what editing chile? He just watched his best friend get shot and k*lled lol.
 
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In the last episode they shot Eddie, so there goes our hopes for him becoming bi.

That editing tho... how are we supposed to think his character is not in love with Eddie?

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Beware that this is NOT the way it was broadcast but a fanedit; the scene is overall the same aside from the short flashback and the music
 
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