OMG another "women only need respond" thread will make me scream till my eyes bleed!!

[mitchymo]

You did'nt ask indeed and i did'nt give. I was much too interested in the rationale behind your post than your feelings within it.

And touche...

 

[Ethyl]

*is inspired to create a "what do you think about...?" thread directed at straight men and request "no douchebags reply"*

:firedevil:

 

[nudeyorker]

*is inspired to create a "what do you think about...?" thread directed at straight men and request "no douchebags reply"*

:firedevil:

Might be easier to send out a few PM's

 

[Drifterwood]

I'm more of a man than you'll ever get and less of a woman than you'll ever be.

Hang on - did I get that right :tongue:

 

[D_Tim McGnaw]

You did'nt ask indeed and i did'nt give. I was much too interested in the rationale behind your post than your feelings within it.

And touche...

:tongue::wink::biggrin1:

 

[D_Tim McGnaw]

*is inspired to create a "what do you think about...?" thread directed at straight men and request "no douchebags reply"*

:firedevil:

I love that idea what questions would you ask ?:biggrin1:

 

[Gisella]

I think an Anarchist non-conformists style thread would be soo cool having around..I would prefer it than the radom thought or alikes drop out or even drive by shootings threads..

 

[Guy-jin]

*is inspired to create a "what do you think about...?" thread directed at straight men and request "no douchebags reply"*

:firedevil:

Don't tempt me.

 

[B_theOtherJJ]

OK but lets be honest this is the internet, you couldn't even be sure a woman was responding to your post in any case, it's so futile when the apparently pretty girl who's posts you've solicited could just as easily be a big fat old guy. :biggrin1:

Yup, and that is precisely the internet game. You never know who/what you are really dealing with, so buyer BEWARE. It no diff than when a guy will put age limits into his profile (ie: 18-31). So what happens if you turn 32? Does a Scarlett Letter 32 appear on your forehead so the poster will know your age????

 

[D_Tim McGnaw]

I mean what would happen if someone posted a thread in which they asked only white people to answer their OP ? Or only Non-Jews ? e.t.c.

You see what annoys me, or worries me sometimes even is the reason an OP is trying to explicitly exclude some people.

If I'm looking for information from, oh lets say, short guys, and a bunch of tall guys respond to my OP I can easily not read their responses, I don't have to say "Only short guys respond" I can edit the thread for myself. Presumably the majority of responses would be from short guys anyway, or at least guys or girls who aren't short but who feel qualified in some way to speak anyway. Let's be clear I'd be just as unnerved by an OP posted by a gay guy which asked for men only to respond, whatever, the point is of course I'm at liberty to ignore whom ever I want but I shouldn't feel at liberty to exclude whom ever I want.

That last point is important because the first is a personal choice, the second reflects a policy of tacit approval for exclusionary or prejudiced behaviour on the part of the site.

I know that in fact LPSG would never endorse such behaviour which is why it mystifies me why the site allows such naked examples of this kind of behaviour.

If people would be rightly pissed at me for posting, "Whites only need respond" or "Jews don't bother to answer" or some such then it makes no sense to me why "Women only need respond" or "(Gay)Men don't bother to answer" or similar is acceptable.

 

[naughty]

I mean what would happen if someone posted a thread in which they asked only white people to answer their OP ? Or only Non-Jews ? e.t.c.

You see what annoys me, or worries me sometimes even is the reason an OP is trying to explicitly exclude some people.

If I'm looking for information from, oh lets say, short guys, and a bunch of tall guys respond to my OP I can easily not read their responses, I don't have to say "Only short guys respond" I can edit the thread for myself. Presumably the majority of responses would be from short guys anyway, or at least guys or girls who aren't short but who feel qualified in some way to speak anyway. Let's be clear I'd be just as unnerved by an OP posted by a gay guy which asked for men only to respond, whatever, the point is of course I'm at liberty to ignore whom ever I want but I shouldn't feel at liberty to exclude whom ever I want.

That last point is important because the first is a personal choice, the second reflects a policy of tacit approval for exclusionary or prejudiced behaviour on the part of the site.

I know that in fact LPSG would never endorse such behaviour which is why it mystifies me why the site allows such naked examples of this kind of behaviour.

If people would be rightly pissed at me for posting, "Whites only need respond" or "Jews don't bother to answer" or some such then it makes no sense to me why "Women only need respond" or "(Gay)Men don't bother to answer" or similar is acceptable.

Perhaps those addressed to women should be in the women's section. Yes, that opening was incidiary. Perhaps they will take some of the suggestions that have been presented here in the future. The bottom line is that ultimately no one can really stop you from posting in the thread no matter what caveat is expressed at the beginning.

 

[Countryguy63]

I will agree that a better way of expressing it would be "women preferred"

 

[B_theOtherJJ]

Hey we all have PREFERENCES.....

 

[D_Tim McGnaw]

I will agree that a better way of expressing it would be "women preferred"

I still don't really understand this, the internet is like one gigantic public space, like a city, and LPSG is like a street or a neighbourhood. If I went out on to the street outside my house with a sign with a discussion provoking question on it or even an advert of some kind and sat down and waited to see if the people on my street wanted to join in the discussion I would perforce simply have to have the discussion with whom ever decided to take the time to involve themselves.

The TOS are like public safety laws, and city bye laws e.t.c. so lets say I put on my sign "Whites preferred", I would very likely quickly get a crowd of irate people of all colours and creeds shouting and arguing about whether or not I should express such discriminatory ideas in a public place, after all I don't own the street, I can't control who can and cannot involve themselves in a conversation I chose to have in public with the public in a publicly owned space. I'm not obligated to directly respond to anyone else's comment or take any notice of them, but I'm not in a position to tell them they can't say what ever they want out here on the street.

Pretty soon the police would end up being called, because of the disturbance, and the police rightfully under city ordinances would have a right to ask me to stop causing a public disturbance or offence and to either remove the portion of my sign which said "Whites preferred" or to remove myself and my entire sign from the street altogether.

The same would apply if the sign read "Straights preferred", "Gentiles preferred" and it should be the same if it read "Gays preferred" or "Blacks preferred" though I readily admit that people might be less offended by those, though not me I would be equally offended. The point is if you take your conversation to the street for public discussion you need to accept that all the people on the street who wish to get involved have a right to be involved regardless of your personal preferences and that explicitly excluding them from the conversation is deeply offensive, since this is evryone's street not just yours and you don't get to decide what does on on this street according to your personal likes and dislikes. If you want a discussion with the street then you better be prepared for a discussion with the street.

Now the mods and admins in this case need to be careful because this kind of explicit discrimination is a grey area, I've seen OPs and others say to those who's posts were explicitly not solicited, "Why are you even posting here this isn't a discussion for you" or " X didn't even ask you, buzz off " (or words to this effects ) that's an extremely dodgy area for the site to allow to go unregulated as I'm sure the admins and mods would agree.

 

[vince]

I think the difference is that you are only being asked not to respond. No one here can stop you from responding.

If someone asks nicely “I really only want to hear from ______, well, they may be stupid in limiting the answers or they may be looking for some specific wank material, or they may truly be interested in only hearing from ____. But I don’t see what’s to be offended about. In fact, there are threads that ask for responses from specific demographics on this forum all the time. Here’s an interesting example from last month. I saw it at the time and didn’t post in because I am not a Gay/Bi African American and I had nothing worthwhile to say on the topic-

Question For Gay/Bi African-Americans Nobody protested that one. Did it make you want to scream until your eyes bled as well?

You’re free to respond with your opinion, or to question the question, just as I am free to request that responses be limited to a target demographic.

This is not the street. It’s more like a private club with a low threshold for admittance and a set of rules to be abided by. Whatever. You can go out on the street with a sign that says “I only talk to gays” and it’s not illegal. It may be stupid and you may be charged with disturbing the peace if a fight ensues, but they cannot arrest you for exercising your right to free speech. At least in the USA they can’t. Where I live they could and would.

 

[B_theOtherJJ]

I only wanna hear from Hot, HUGE HUNG muscle studs, pumped only, spikey hair, 1 blue eye and 1 green eye, some facial hair or not, nice long bulletlike nips, thick Quads, and v-shaped calves, size 9-11 shoes, preferable a boot wearer, non-smoker, reality show lover, GREAT kisser w/tongue only, age between 21 and still breathing, whose birthday falls in the winter months, and lives on my block. Hit me up ya'll !!!
Must love dogs .....

 

[D_Tim McGnaw]

I think the difference is that you are only being asked not to respond. No one here can stop you from responding.

If someone asks nicely “I really only want to hear from ______, well, they may be stupid in limiting the answers or they may be looking for some specific wank material, or they may truly be interested in only hearing from ____. But I don’t see what’s to be offended about. In fact, there are threads that ask for responses from specific demographics on this forum all the time. Here’s an interesting example from last month. I saw it at the time and didn’t post in because I am not a Gay/Bi African American and I had nothing worthwhile to say on the topic-

Question For Gay/Bi African-Americans Nobody protested that one. Did it make you want to scream until your eyes bled as well?

You’re free to respond with your opinion, or to question the question, just as I am free to request that responses be limited to a target demographic.

This is not the street. It’s more like a private club with a low threshold for admittance and a set of rules to be abided by. Whatever. You can go out on the street with a sign that says “I only talk to gays” and it’s not illegal. It may be stupid and you may be charged with disturbing the peace if a fight ensues, but they cannot arrest you for exercising your right to free speech. At least in the USA they can’t. Where I live they could and would.

Firstly there's a big difference between asking a specific group of people if they have an opinion about something an OP thinks only they can shed any light on and specifically indicating that the opinions or responses of others are not welcome.

I would have a problem with the thread you linked to if the OP had said in the OP, "Non-Gay/Bi-African Americans, please do not respond" or words to that effect. The OP did not explicitly exclude the input of persons not of the demographic mentioned in the thread title. There's a big difference there.

But lets be clear Vince, I've made it clear before, I would be just as annoyed by threads which explicitly excluded women, or straight people, or anyone for that matter.

This isn't some anti-homophobic mission I'm on, I just think that when an OP explicitly says they don't want the input of certain people that this is a form of discriminatory "bullying", especially if the OP goes on to ask people to not continue to contribute to the thread because they're not one of those the OP wanted to have respond to the thread.

I'm completely unconvinced that this is a club of any kind, it's not exclusive, its not in any way private, and there aren't any criteria for joining, people self select membership e.t.c.

The comparison to a street or neighbourhood remains the closest in my opinion.

 

[D_Tintagel_Demondong]

I completely disregard any prohibitions as regards which age, gender or sexual orientation any given thread is directed toward and insert my opinion anyway, which is my right as an Anarchist.

Same here, AC.

When I first started posting here, one of the first things that I noticed was that the attractive straight men would be hounded by the gay men. They would have their profile 'walls' filled with comments from gay men, they would have pages of gallery comments from gay men, they would get many PM's from gay men in chat and I assumed that their inbox was full of fan mail from gay men. I thought that they would be frustrated and annoyed by all of this seemingly unwanted attention. As I became more acquainted with this site, I realized that many totally straight men appreciate praise and compliments from gay men.

There are, however, a few straight men who are truly annoyed by attention from gay men, which begs the question: "why are they here?" After just one week on this site, it should be obvious to them that they will get a lot of attention from gay men, especially if they are attractive. Hell, if they've used any forum or social network then they should already know that this will happen. If they are here to get pussy, which is possible but unlikely, then they need to accept the fact that they are going to get attention from gay men.

My advice to the "Women-Only" posters: this is the Internet. Gay men can't fuck you even if they wanted to. Your asshole is safe. If you are just looking for pussy and not praise, then just ignore any posts from males. It becomes easy to ignore a certain group... I do it every time I log in.

I take all the compliments that I can get!

 

[Ethyl]

I love that idea what questions would you ask ?:biggrin1:

"Does my labia look like this Arby's sandwich?" (for the Large Labia Humiliation crowd)
"My boyfriend begged me to get breast implants so I did and now he hates my surgery scars! What do I do?"
"Am I a lesbian because I kissed a woman?"
"I had a jello wrestling contest with another woman. Now my boyfriend can't get it up unless there's jello in the room (he says there's always room for jello). Help!"

I could do this all night but that should give you an idea. :biggrin1:

Don't tempt me.

C'mon. Youknowyouwannayouknowyouwannyouknowyouwanna.

 

[rob_just_rob]

Honestly!!! What is with some straight guys ? Are they so insecure that even the idea of a man responding to whatever they post around here gives them the heeby jeebies ?

Do they not understand the way sites like this work ? Or that they are on the internet ? Or that you can't catch gay just by reading a gay guy's posts ? Or that just because you say "Girls only" doesn't mean you can actually enforce a rule that only girls wil respond to whatever freaky crap it is you've posted ?

If a straight male* asks a question about sex or relationships and specifies that only women should respond, it's quite likely because he isn't interested in what gay men think.

*shrugs* I tend to read posts by clicking on "New" and therefore seldom note what forum they are in. So I respond to plenty of threads in which my opinion may not have been sought. Maybe all of them. :biggrin1: If I feel like I have something to contribute, I post.




* - as opposed to the "straight" guys who like having oral sex with men. Those ones actually are afraid of catching gay. As far as they are concerned, gay is not spread through sexual contact, but rather through reading LPSG posts.