On BEING SEDUCED by women - Questions for the HET MALES

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If you really want a one night stand with a guy, try approaching them, look them confidently and calmly in the eye, and without beating around the bush, bullshitting, or playing coy, just tell him you find him attractive and ask if he'd like to have sex with you. .

That was precisely the technique of the woman in one of the more memorable times I've been seduced: Confidence, directness, brevity. No coyness, bullshit or head games. I was so flattered and surprised all I could do was stammer.... ssssure!
 
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Grace. An attractive woman is graceful in not only her bearing but her intellect, humor, and charm. Coyness is straight out. It's:

Confidence
Intellect
Humor
Beauty

I believe any woman can be beautiful if she capitalizes on her attractive features while minimizing her faults. Good hygiene is a must and a smart sense of style help enormously too. Nothing, however, equals a lovely smile and happy demeanor. It means she doesn't take herself too seriously. Victoria Beckham is just hideous to me as she never smiles, has the fakest fake boobs, and dresses like a slut. She has NO grace. I wouldn't fuck her if she dropped naked out of the sky onto my hard cock.

Well said 4 inches. And Viking - well, there is always something to that as well. A level headed, confident woman who does not have a self absorbed attitude, who can be an effortless conversationalist, enjoy a brutal sense of wit and humor, not taking herself or too much of anything too seriously, who has mastered the right amount of subtle physical contact, knows how to flirt with her eyes, has a wonderful smile and honestly tells me things about herself (when I ask or the topic is relevant) rather than hide behind a wall. And it helps when she falls into whatever category we personally find attractive. Being aware of a wide range of topics is helpful. Being kind and considerate to waiters/bartenders/valets/staff is a must. Being curious about me and what I might have to say is a plus.
 

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I like girls who manage to get just the right balance of interest versus indifference. That is to say she's responsive to me and can engage me properly, smiles, knows how to use her body a little seductively, but can also break away for a while and leave me hanging. That kind of confidence is sexy.

I agree, this is key in seduction. Letting a man know you're interested, but then also, not being sooooo into him.
 

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mention your vibrator - lets get it on
say you do dont masturbate, you prefer the real thing - see ya later, alligator.

That's not seduction, though. You talk sex with a guy, he's hard. It's that easy. Seduction is much more about the anticipation, the hesitance, the "should I really," the boundary busting.... If it were all "ok," seduction would be unnecessary. In order for seduction to work, someone has a conscience or feels guilt, or is unwilling to cross the line with a client or employer. Like 160IQ said, it's easy to get men in bed.
 

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what is your goal? A one night stand? Trying to get sex in a relationship? Trying to get into or build a relationship?

The plumber has a conscience. Personally, I don't care about his wife and kids, cos I don't want to marry him or date him or anything like that. He's hot, he has a nice cock, and all of his guilt is so...:rolleyes:.
 

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The unsuccessful cases were clearly desperation or manipulation directed at me, the target-of-opportunity that happened to be nearby. Very impersonal and very phony. Its easy to recognizes these types of advances and avoid them if need be.

Yes, and these are the women who will marry ANYONE just to say they're married. So you're correct, men are targeted by women, but I don't think they were trying to seduce you as much as quietly manipulate and control you, which is what women do best. It's sickening, but true.

Back to the point, though, that seduction is not so manipulative as it is enticing, intriguing. Both parties are to have pleasure, no one is using anyone, there is a mutual attraction...
 

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Oh BINGO!

Grace. An attractive woman is graceful in not only her bearing but her intellect, humor, and charm. Coyness is straight out. It's:
Confidence
Intellect
Humor
Beauty
I believe any woman can be beautiful if she capitalizes on her attractive features while minimizing her faults. Good hygiene is a must and a smart sense of style help enormously too. Nothing, however, equals a lovely smile and happy demeanor. It means she doesn't take herself too seriously.

You see, being all of these things requires that one WAIT for the male to take action. Now with the client at work I want, that's fine, cos I want him...very interested in more than a lay. (Still, it's frustrating.) But the plumber...you're not helping me here!
 

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Being aware of a wide range of topics is helpful. Being kind and considerate to waiters/bartenders/valets/staff is a must. Being curious about me and what I might have to say is a plus.

None of this is seduction, it's all about your ego.
 

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Pretty simple, I'd like to know how you are best seduced. What seduction attempts were successful vs unsuccessful? In each case, what were the determining factors, meaning...WHY were you lured in some cases vs not in the others? What worked for you/what didn't work for you?
As far as being seduced? I've never seen anybody as shit-all stupid as I am. Example: When I was 16, there was a pretty nurse living next door to us whose husband was in Vietnam for a long rotation, something like a year. Now, here I am, 16, thick wavy dark hair, blue eyes, already over six feet tall, and this woman next door asks my parents if she can take me to the movies. They said sure. You know what the movie was? Summer of '42. Know when I picked up the hint? Last year, age 51, when I drove by that theatre and finally realized exactly what the message of taking a 16 year old boy to that movie would have been. :doopit:

If anybody wants to git wit me, she needs to just walk over and fondle my crotch. :biggrin1: For a few minutes, 'cus I still might not get the message. :biggrin1::biggrin1:
 

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That's not seduction, though. You talk sex with a guy, he's hard. It's that easy. Seduction is much more about the anticipation, the hesitance, the "should I really," the boundary busting.... If it were all "ok," seduction would be unnecessary. In order for seduction to work, someone has a conscience or feels guilt, or is unwilling to cross the line with a client or employer. Like 160IQ said, it's easy to get men in bed.

Bullox. I have had plenty of sex talks with women, and did not sleep with them. I dont want to waste my time with someone I know from the get go I would not enjoy.

Better to keep them as a friend, and see if they have any hot friends that love the cock and playing with themselves.
 

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None of this is seduction, it's all about your ego.

I was thinkign recently how inticately related ego and sex really are.

I remember sharon stone once said on David Letterman, abotu how to keep a man, ti was a top ten, and she said

2) always be sure and stroke..... his ego.

Alot of men love to carve notches in their belts, its as much about ego as it is pleasure to them.

Alot of women like to try and capture an alpha male, even though they know they will nto keep them, again, it's as much ego, as it is pleasure.
 

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The plumber has a conscience. Personally, I don't care about his wife and kids, cos I don't want to marry him or date him or anything like that. He's hot, he has a nice cock, and all of his guilt is so...:rolleyes:.

is it him being taken that makes it so alluring, or is he just a remarkable physical specimen that does an amazing job with your faucets?

Either he's the type of guy who cheats on his wife, or he isn't. If the former, just let him know (come to the door fresh out of the shower, ask him, there's a million ways to do this).

If the latter, leave him alone. Why put a lot of work into giving a guy an experience he'll regret for the rest of his life?
 

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EYE contact! if I get the look when your head is slightly pointed down and you have to look up to see straight and your eyes lock with mine it's like pulling the pin on a grenade. Friendly pet names, sugar, hun, babe, as long as they seem natural if they are forced it feels more like your mocking.
 

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is it him being taken that makes it so alluring, or is he just a remarkable physical specimen that does an amazing job with your faucets?

LOL Well, to be honest, he does everything. He's a carpenter, handyman, plumber, electrician. Best thing - he actually calls you back, and shows up to do the work. He doesn't overcharge and does excellent work. Yes, this turns me on. He's not anywhere near intellectual (big words I may use offend him), he's street. But I don't care about that. So what if he doesn't know what "facetious" means. :tongue: I don't need to use that word during sex. All he needs to understand is the basics; faster, harder, fuck, oh god yes, don't stop, more, please, daddy feels good... As long as he understands those very basic, primitive things, we're good. :biggrin1:

Either he's the type of guy who cheats on his wife, or he isn't. If the former, just let him know (come to the door fresh out of the shower, ask him, there's a million ways to do this).

Of course he's that type. (He has had oodles of women do all sorts of stuff to get him involved. Even couples have had sex right in front of him. It's like freakin porn!) But our playtime has coincided with other incidents with his family - health scares - that have made him feel sudden guilt.

If the latter, leave him alone. Why put a lot of work into giving a guy an experience he'll regret for the rest of his life?

He won't regret being with me, and so what if he regrets cheating yet again? He shouldn't have started something he's not going to finish. And I'm going to make him feel like shit because of it. After all, if it's really over, what does it matter? :wink: He'll just revert back to handyman.

I'll do all sorts of things to attempt to re-engage him, trust me. I just figured I'd come here for the male perspective, some fresh new ideas. Otherwise, pigtails, a miniskirt, lacy bra and killer heels sounds like a good way to answer the door.
 

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Last year, age 51, when I drove by that theatre and finally realized exactly what the message of taking a 16 year old boy to that movie would have been. If anybody wants to git wit me, she needs to just walk over and fondle my crotch. :biggrin1: For a few minutes, 'cus I still might not get the message. :biggrin1::biggrin1:

HAHAHAHA You had the chance of a lifetime and blew it. That's some funny shite. :tongue:
 

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EYE contact! if I get the look when your head is slightly pointed down and you have to look up to see straight and your eyes lock with mine it's like pulling the pin on a grenade.

Hot!

Friendly pet names......as long as they seem natural if they are forced it feels more like your mocking.

Good point.
 

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But to get something going, that is more challenging. Everyone comes with their own baggage. You can't seduce a man who has just come off of a woman who played him, but how would you know that about him? And a man cannot seduce a woman who has been cheated on too many times, she's too closed off.

The art of seduction is tricky. There are good and bad choices in the seducee.

Sometimes, seduction is NECESSARY, as your seducee may be taken, or perhaps even a client. Boundary-busting situations are ripe for seduction techniques.

You have some good points there. In fact, these are things I've been thinking a lot about recently.

As I've just come out of a serious relationship, I'm not looking to get into another one straight away. However, I would love to have someone to get together with here and there, especially on those long, cold, snowy winter nights. :tongue: I met a guy at work, and the interest seemed to be immediate and mutual. Every time I passed his work station, he'd already be watching me, then catch me looking and either shyly look away, or smile...or even wink! Then, we started hanging out together on breaks, when I also met a few of his friends. Then, he started offering me regular rides home (I live quite far from where I work). I thought things were progressing quite nicely!

However, something happened recently that's changed his entire demeanor. I have no idea what it is. He avoids my eyes when I pass at work, he talks to his friends at break in his own language (rather than English, which is what I understand - he spoke English before, trying to include me in conversation), and no longer waits for me after work to drive home. I have no idea what happened. I let him know that I liked him, in various ways - smiling (and smiling eyes), listening, showing interest in things that concerned him, and so on. I even gave him a great big hug one day, as thanks for a drive home on the coldest, wettest day we've yet had this season. He looked shocked, but he was smiling...

I agree that women who seem desperate are a turnoff... ones who are clearly trying to be sexy and seductive and not really succeeding.
I think if any of these women would just be confident and direct they would have MUCH better results. ... We don't need the stupid games and sleight of hand, if done right it can be enticing or exciting but just as often it can backfire. Being direct will make you stand out far more and requires less skill to pull off.

To me, it seems that many men don't like women to be straightforward and honest, in terms of seduction, or showing interest or attraction. From what I see these days, men go after the haughty, angry, unhappy-looking girls without a thought in their heads and nothing of value to say (think Victoria Beckham - good comparison!). The ones who play emotional games seem to be far more in demand than those who don't. Thoughtful, considerate, friendly, intelligent, confident, honest attractive girls seem to get swept aside in favour of these sour-faced man-eaters. I don't understand it.
 

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To me, it seems that many men don't like women to be straightforward and honest, in terms of seduction, or showing interest or attraction. From what I see these days, men go after the haughty, angry, unhappy-looking girls without a thought in their heads and nothing of value to say (think Victoria Beckham - good comparison!). The ones who play emotional games seem to be far more in demand than those who don't. Thoughtful, considerate, friendly, intelligent, confident, honest attractive girls seem to get swept aside in favour of these sour-faced man-eaters. I don't understand it.

::shrug:: no idea. The guys I know, myself included, aren't like that and I can't imagine the appeal. Nice bum, btw.