Once again, obama gets it right !!!!!

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  1. cruztbone

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    The president once again pointed out in elegant but plain language why the War in Iraq must be part of our past. He graciously acknowledged his predecessor and told us bluntly that the pullout from Afghanistan starts next year and it is NOT an endless war for the US.
    This stupid war in Iraq killed 4400 Americans, injured more than 35, 000 and brought death , injury and pain to millions of Iraqis.
    As the president correctly pointed out, now we must work to provide our returning vets with jobs, the best of health care, housing and college educations through the renewed and enhanced post 9-11 GI bill.
    God bless our troops, our vets and our president.
    and all you nay sayers can go to hell.:wink:
     
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    Hmmm, 50,000 troops remain in Iraq. When will those 50,000 come home? This president is worthless.
     
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    You're joking, right?
     
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    He sure can talk & have people believe in him,Remember that's how he got where he is,but his actions speak louder than words.
     
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    hmmm, iraq is for the republicans and afghanistan is for the democrats. i hope the estimated trillion dollars in mineral deposits supposedly in afghanistan will help pay for the GI bill considering this country is bankrupt.
     
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    Actually, both wars were started during the previous administration. The Afghanistan War began in October of 2001 and not when Obama decided to shift his attentions back to Afghanistan and away from Iraq many years later.

    I'm sure there will be plenty of Conservatives who will try and rewrite history to make it seem as if Obama started the Afghan War just so they can try to compare the two and try to raise the issue of how the Iraq War was "successful" and the current Afghan strategy is failing. That would be foolish because all of the primary objectives for invading Iraq did not come to light. But we did get rid of the "bad guy", right? Talk about turning lemons into lemonade. Also, I'm sure some of the opposition will view these comments as another lib "blaming Bush", however, there are plenty of news stories and videos on the internet to confirm this. When it comes to issues surrounding the truth, historical fact trumps ideology. Unfortunately, that basic rule doesn't always work come election time but we'll see in November if people think with their brains as well as their hearts.
     
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    This was written by Sherry Hackett, Buddy Hackett's widow
    "WE NOTICED"

    President Obama:

    Today I read of your administrations' plan to re-define September 11 as
    a National Service Day. Sir, it's time we had a talk.


    During your campaign, Americans watched as you made mockery of our
    tradition of standing and crossing your heart when the Pledge of Allegiance
    was spoken. You, out of four people on the stage, were the only one not
    honoring our tradition.
    YES, "We noticed."


    During one of your many speeches, Americans heard you say that you
    intended to visit all 57 states. We all know that Islam, not America has 57 states.
    YES, "We noticed."


    When President Bush leaned over at Ground Zero and gently placed a
    flower on the memorial, while you nonchalantly tossed your flower onto
    the pile without leaning over.
    YES, "We noticed."


    Every time you apologized to other countries for America 's position on
    an issue we have wondered why you don't share our pride in this great
    country.. When you have heard foreign leaders berate our country and
    our beliefs, you have not defended us. In fact, you insulted the
    British Crown beyond belief.
    YES, "We noticed."


    When your pastor of 20 years, "God-damned America " and said that
    9/11 was " America 's chickens coming home to roost" and you denied
    having heard recriminations of that nature, we wondered how that could
    be. You later disassociated yourself from that church and Pastor
    Wright because it was politically expedient to do so.
    YES, "We noticed."


    When you announced that you would transform America , we wondered
    why. With all her faults, America is the greatest country on earth.
    Sir, KEEP THIS IN MIND, "if not for America and the people who built
    her, you wouldn't be sitting in the White House now." Prior to your
    election to the highest office in this Country, you were a senator from
    Illinois and from what we can glean from the records available, not a
    very remarkable one.
    YES, "We noticed."


    All through your campaign and even now, you have surrounded
    yourself with individuals who are basically unqualified for the
    positions for which you appointed them. Worse than that, the majority
    of them are people who, like you, bear no special allegiance, respect, or
    affection for this country and her traditions.
    YES, "We noticed."


    You are 14 months into your term and every morning millions of
    Americans wake up to a new horror heaped on us by you. You seek to
    saddle working Americans with a health care/insurance reform package
    that, along with cap and trade, will bankrupt this nation.
    YES, "We noticed."


    We seek, by protesting, to let our representatives know that we are not
    in favor of these crippling expenditures and we are labeled
    "un-American","racist", "mob". We wonder how we are supposed to let
    you know how frustrated we are. You have attempted to make our protests seem
    isolated and insignificant. Until your appointment, Americans had the right
    to speak out.
    YES, "We noticed."


    On September 11, 2001 there were no Republicans or Democrats, only
    Americans. And we all grieved together and helped each other in
    whatever way we could. The attack on 9/11 was carried out because we are
    Americans.
    And YES, "We noticed."

    There were many of us who prayed that as a black president you could
    help unite this nation. In six months you have done more to destroy
    this nation than the attack on 9/11. You have failed us.
    YES, "We noticed."


    September 11 is a day of remembrance for all Americans. You
    propose to make 9/11 a "National Service Day". While we know that you
    don't share our reverence for 9/11, we pray that history will report
    your proposal as what it is, a disgrace.
    YES, "We noticed."


    You have made a mockery of our Constitution and the office that
    you hold. You have embarrassed and slighted us in foreign visits
    and policy.
    YES, "We noticed."


    We have noticed all these things. We will deal with you. When Americans
    come together again, it will be to remove you from office.
    Take notice.
    If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not, I'm sorry!



    "May you always have love to share, health to spare and friends that care."
     
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    Ummmmm... just curious (before that obvious piece of spam mail is deleted). When did Obama actually call anyone "the r-word"?
     
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    Regarding this 57 state thing: it was an obvious misstatement from an exhausted candidate somewhere in his 18th hour on the campaign trail.

    However: in addition to the 50 states, there are seven territorial possessions such as Puerto Rico, Palau, Guam, American Samoa, American Virgin Islands, N Marianas Islands and, of course, Washington DC. The reason why I understood this error to be what it was is because, at the time, I was knee-deep in research for an article eventually published by a non-profit company focused on AIDS Drug Assistance Programs (ADAP): there are, in fact 57 ADAPs, as I'm sure there are many many federal programs.

    Those interested in verifying this can click on this PDF and scroll to the Executive Summary, which is the first real text in the document. The mention of the 57 ADAPS (and their jurisdictions) is in the first paragraph.

    But 57 "states of Islam"? What the freaking fuck does that even mean?

    Second: we should have listened more closely to Colin Powell's Potter Barn Rule. Whether we like it or not, there will be some American presence in Iraq for the foreseeable future (and beyond). It's our official toehold in that region of the world.
     
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    thanks for the info. i just believe in minding our own business.
     
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    I love that anyone would attach any significance to the political opinions of Buddy Hackett,
    much less his "widow". LOL.

    Of course this highly partisan piece, which is at best wildly exaggerated and at worst completely fabricated propaganda, wasn't written by "Buddy Hackett's widow" at all (not that it matters). It was written by someone named Faye Bunnell of Parrish, FL in August 2009 and has been making its way around right-wing blogs ever since: snopes.com: Sherry Hackett - We Noticed

    BTW, the posting of entire articles is forbidden by the ToS as well as the rules of the Politics forum.
    Might wanna familiarize yourself with the landscape before you post again, noob.

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    Sherry Hackett didn't write this.

    And that's only the beginning of the inaccuracies in this piece of twaddle.

    snopes.com: Sherry Hackett - We Noticed

    Oops; sorry for the repetition.
     
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    It's amazing what the paranoid will believe nowadays. Gotta wonder just how much hate must be stowed in the minds of some dissenters to continually fall for nonsense like that?
     
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    Just another politician trying to smooth over the cracks before his next election. It doesn't matter which party they're on.

    Remaining troops will be rebranded under another task force name, & various Mujahadeen will be paid to stop causing trouble for a while, whilst a new more fiendish imminent threat is uncovered, to occupy the media lackeys & divert attention.

    Who was the last US President not to bomb, occupy, commit illegal incursions, or go to war in a foreign country? There haven't been many, if at all, in the past 120 years.

    FT.com / Iraq - Obama
     
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    I'm going to vote a straight Democratic ticket this November, but I won't be sad if the Republicans gain control. There really is no REAL substantive difference in terms of th elevel of whorishness toward big moneyed interests. I guess that as long as they arent pushing anti gay marriage amendments, I really couldnt give two shits who's in office
     
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    So, you're a one issue voter now? Gay marriage is the only strategy to achieve LGBT equality? You think that if Republicans gain control (not to mention "tea party" wackos) there will be no difference on that issue, not to mention a host of other issues? You really believe there is "no REAL substantive difference" regarding the level of "whorishness" toward big moneyed interests?

    Granted, the Dems have increasingly had to fill their campaign coffers with stinky money in order to remain competitive. How else are they going to buy airtime, get noticed and get elected? It's only going to get worse now that SCOTUS opened the corporate floodgates, so hold your nose. Believe me, there's no one who hates this system and rails against it as much as I. Well, maybe Fred Wertheimer.

    Are you going to insist on ideological purity and the same in campaign contributions, even if it means no one who supports your issues can be elected? Would you rather the Dems just bow out and let the Repubs run the show? Or would you rather have a few good players at the table who have the public interest at heart, who may at least try to reverse the trends of the past one (or three) decades? If nothing else, stand up for equality and social progress, and slow the fast slide to complete and total Corporatocracy.

    I recently posted rather extensively in another thread my disappointment and great frustration with the president, specifically on his failure to effectively counter the opposition and get his message out clearly, which I imagine raised a few eyebrows around here. But I'm nowhere close to saying he's "worthless", not by a long shot. We could be doing a hell of a lot worse, and if we (and he) don't get organized and fight back, we will.

    I'm perplexed by your statements in this thread, because I consider you to be generally politically astute, and I'm very familiar with the political environment you occupy. Frankly, I'm astonished.

    Okay, so who are you really, and what have you done with TomCat? :suspect:
     
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    Maxcok:

    You think you have something to be frustrated about regarding the upcoming election?

    Remember when you go to the poll booth in November that I, Midlifebear, must choose between Harry Reid and Sharron Angle.

    As for Obama, I'm still giggly as a school girl that: 1. he hasn't started another war, and 2. he is well-educated and speaks in complete sentences. If you recall, George W. said (in front of an audience full of the press and TV cameras) "The problem with the French is that they haven't a word like like we do for entrepreneur." Industrialsize will correct me if I've misquoted.
     
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    :haha:
     
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