once again, the Obama foreign policy is successful !!

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That's how I felt about the U.S. policy on torturing suspects in the war on terror - I thought we were supposed to be better than that. It seems that when conflicts occur, both sides usually commit atrocities.

Evidence of 'mass execution' in Tripoli - Africa - Al Jazeera English

Us torturing people is the least of what we've done over the last 50 years, and Americans and Brits know jack shit about it. We've slaughtered so many people, and installed so many dictators it's insane.

Then people wonder why 9/11 and 7/7 happened. It's obvious why they happened.
 

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He was about five steps ahead of the two steps down, looking like he was walking as fast as possible to get away from the two men while the cop was helping the Harvard (sorry, forgot, do not hold ivies in high regard since they are higher the racist Duke professors away from the university to lead their departments) professor. I practically majored in PR in college (I had a PR incentive tacked on to my sports management degree and I ended up being persuaded to take the capstone in PR at my college, just basic courses that have little to do with PR not done) and can tell you, if I had seen that photo, I would tell whoever took it to delete it, cut it up and burn the negatives or delete the photo file as fast as humanly possible.

All I am saying from a PR standpoint, it was a HORRIBLE picture. And the fact that it was released by the white house is even more baffling. And the press conference (do not remember what it was about), any idiot with an ounce of knowledge of PR would have known that question on the whole cop and Harvard professor was coming TO THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE US. I would have told him that if he wants to speak of the evils of racial profiling, fine. But at the same time, reitirate in that specific case that not all details are in and it is not my place to comment. But to say the cop acted stupidly is a rush to judgement that I think a person who has worked in law would be above (however, not so much after seeing people at Duke handle the Duke lacrosse case).

I am not ripping on Obama. I am stating the opinion that Obama and the people around him have little to no common PR sense.

We may just have to agree to disagree. You say the problem is the photo; I say the problem is people on the right who are determined to distort *anything* they see, no matter how innocuous, into a critique of Obama. In that sense, it doesn't matter what images or information the White House releases--according to these people, it's ALL "bad PR."

As for the "stupidly" comment, I acknowledge that Obama spoke too hastily. So does he.
 

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'Moonbattery - Critique, commentary and discussion of left-leaning political factions.'???

Huuum no thank you. Just a quick look around it's clear we have another right wing disinformation depot.




These words do not belong in an informed truthful sentence. Nice try though.
 

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On a slightly different tack, Obama is president of the United States of America. I presume it is his duty to choose a foreign policy which benefits the nation he represents. If his policy is not racist, then clearly he has failed in his duty.


I don't think you have a firm grasp on what the word racist means. I get the feeling you might actually walk down the road, tipping your bowler hat (I realize this isn't 1920 but I find the English terribly charming and it helps with my delusion if I imagine them all in bowler hats... don't take that away from me) to every person you meet with the phrase "Good morning, racist!" or "How do you do, racist?" "Lovely morning for being a racist, is it not?" Racist, specifically in this country, isn't used so casually as you've implied it ought or can be by anyone who is taken even slightly seriously.


By "choosing a foreign policy" that reflects the needs of the American people, he hasn't joined the ranks of racists. By supposedly favoring the rich over the wealthy, he hasn't joined the ranks of racists. Having Canadian Bacon on his pizza rather than regular bacon doesn't make him a racist. Choosing Italian loafers over Nike tennis shoes doesn't make him a racist. Deciding to use blue ink and not black ink doesn't make him a racist. Those things aren't what determines or defines a racist (at least not to anyone logical.)




JSZ
 

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hmm, yes, this is an argument about terminology which on the whole is irrelevant to the topic here which is supposed to be foreign policy. The terms are not used the same by everyone. Wikipedia disusses separately racism and racialism. It also says:"

In the modern English language, racism is a broad category encompassing many separate claims or impulses, such as chauvensim, identity politics, institutional racism, etc., and it is often used as a perjorative epithet that many would want to avoid for various reasons. When the term "racialism" is used, this is more commonly people describing themselves, or attempting a more value-neutral terminology which is assumed to be more appropriate for objective communication or analysis. Self-described racialists often wish to avoid many of the popular associations of "racism" that are considered perjorative, or involve extremism or illegal activities"

I'd say we are talking about "identity politics" which is further defined as :"

Identity politics are political arguments that focus upon the self interest and perspectives of self-identified social interest groups and ways in which people's politics may be shaped by aspects of their identity through race, class, religion, sexual orientation or traditional dominance. Not all members of any given group are necessarily involved in identity politics"
 

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If Obama were half as good at domestic politics as he is in foreign politics, he'd be a good president.
 

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If Obama were half as good at domestic politics as he is in foreign politics, he'd be a good president.

His foreign politics consist of him killing & bombing people. I'm not sure that would work domestically!

He's getting better. He's conceding a lot to the Republicans.

That's quite witty. The more he's on the golf course, & not in the office, the better the country feels too.