Figured I'd start my own journal thread, not sure how many regulars read the newbie routine thread... A note: All measurements were taken in cm (BUT POSTED IN INCHES), just a precursor to weird fractions. STARTING STATS (WEEK 1) FL 4.7 FG 4.1 EL 6.7 EG 5.1 notes: First two weeks were spent fine tuning my routine... probably didn't get a lot done. WEEK 3 FL 4.9 FG 4.1 EL 6.7 EG 5.1 notes: Only change was flaccid length, but this can be blamed on variation. It's pretty hard to get a consistent flaccid measurement! WEEK 5 (NOW) FL 5 FG 4.1 EL 6.7 EG 5.1 notes: Again, not flaccid measurements aren't really important. So it's been over a month and I haven't seen any real gains! I know I'm supposed to be patient but something quantifiable would really be a motivation booster. I fully intend to continue with my routine until at least the 3 month mark, at which point if I still haven't seen gains, I'll more than likely give up :frown1: I have been getting stronger erections, and a veins have become more pronounced, so that's a good sign. I've also been taking photos whenever I take measurements, so hopefully when I do reach my (lofty) goal of 8x6, I'll be able to contribute photo evidence that PE works.