Orca vs Great white shark

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  1. Axcess

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    I love see creatures : dolphins, great white sharks , orcas whales , manta rays and most shark species. Great white sharks and Orcas are one of my favorites predators. Who would win in the fight between a great white shark and an Orca ? Both about the same size let's say 21 feet long.
     
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    Orca, beacause they hunt as a pack. In fact pods of orca have been known to beat up whale sharks for sport and hunt and kill great whites, although the reason are unclear.

    So free willy can kick jaws arse.
     
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    Is true that Orcas hunt in packs but I'm talking about a fight between a single Orca versus a white shark both same sized. Of course a great whites sharks wouldnt have a chance with a group of Orcas.
     
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    Whites arnt ideally designed for prey as big as orca, orca are designed for prey as big as whites. 45/55% in the orcas favor me thinks.
     
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    Orcas are smarter but white sharks have a set of nasty jaws .
     
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    What good is a big dick if your not smart enought to use it? I still think orca, maybe the shark, if it was his birthday and the orca let him win, lol.
     
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    Jaws was a better movie. That is all, move on children...
     
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    There was a news article on this subject a few months back - a boatful of scientists witnessed a fight between an orca and a great white. The orca won.

    CNN - Clash of the titans caught on tape: Whale vs. Shark - October 8, 1997

    Yes, the orca in this case was much bigger than the shark. But that's how it is in nature - the sharks max out at about 20 feet, and orcas at about 26 feet.
     
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    Hey, I was right, trust the pup, pup is wise, lol
     
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    Orca.

    Both strong predators both highly maneuverable.

    Jaw size as was mentioned is a good point. Not mentioned is detection.

    Sharks use an odd smell/vibration sense to hone in on the area where their prey is then rely on sight for engagement. Orcas use sonar to pinpoint exact location. In deep enough waters it would be the difference between two humans in pitch darkness, one having night goggles on vs the other relying on sound alone.

    I would imagine the Orca's sonar would wreak havoc on the sharks vibration sense as well so it could be an added weapon against the shark. No contact required.

    Every fish tank has "Don't tap on the glass" written on it for a reason. Imagine the effect of a sonic blast in close quarters. I doubt the shark stands a chance unless the orca is sleeping.
     
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    Obviously not that sharks birthday.
     
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    The scenario is unrealistic because Orca are bigger than Great Whites. Assuming they were the same size though, I'd probably still go with Orca.

    even though Jaws was a much better movie than Orca. and if it was the Jaws from the original novel, then it would be a Megalodon, not a Great White. I give Megalodons the edge over Orca.
     
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    Well, yeah. I guess being able to swallow the Orca whole would be considered and "edge". But just barely.:rolleyes:

    Bugger, now I have to capitalize my O's.
     
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    Orca are also far more maneuverable. They can turn in a very short distance. They will also tire less quickly because they are homeostatic while sharks are not. Orca, and porpoises, are avoided by sharks because the odds are in the favor of the cetaceans. Porpoises and orca attack sharks by ramming their noses into the vulnerable gills of the shark causing severe hemorrhage. While sharks don't appear to be overly stupid, they're no where near as intelligent as orca.
     
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    I don't know who would win. The Orca is huge and powerful, while the shark is quick and can attack from out of nowhere...I think it would depend alot on the element of suprise and who got the first hit. I can see them both as potential winners, but I think more often than not it would be the Orca.
     
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    This is a great question because the two species knew each other. The Meg died out quite recently, anywhere from 2 million to less than 20,000 years ago. In the end, the cetaceans got big, smart, and blubbery, heading to cold and deep pelagic waters where the meg, apparently confined to the continental shelves, could not follow. Megs did hunt whales, the fossil record shows whale bones with Meg tooth marks on them, but in the end, the mammals which comprised the Meg diet evolved faster than the Meg did.

    It is quite likely that the Meg is simply a giant variant of the great white and its classification is of some debate. Either way, the smaller great white survived while the Meg did not. Some people believe the Meg is not extinct due to the apparent newness of Meg teeth which are frequently dredged-up and because of anecdotal reports (including one by the novelist Zane Grey) of giant sharks which appear from time to time.

    But if you want to compare Megalodon to other animals, take a look at this page. Megalodon was bigger than T. Rex.

     
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    Anyone fascinated by sharks and Carcharodon Megalodon might be interested in a book series (fiction) by Steve Alten.

    MEG; A Novel of Deep Terror
    The Trench
    Meg,_Primal_Waters


    Fast paced and well written.

    Gray whale Photo, Eschrichtius robustus :: Image #06431 :: Phillip Colla Natural History Photography

    Blue whales measure in at 6-8 feet!

    I think I'm on ignore. I covered this. SONAR, SOund NAvigation and Ranging, makes whales pretty damned difficult to sneak up on.
     
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    Suddenly the movie JAWS makes so much more sense.

    The Orca was the name of the boat used to catch Great White's
     
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