I came of age and lived through the era of the orgy (1966-79). I'd regularly host RSVP group gropes at my home as well as dive into interesting piles of pulsating man meat at the tubs in the 1970s. Currently, In Spain, Squeeze and I have a fairly large circle of friends from which we can select and organize a group event of 10 (or more) experienced men who are basically the same type of sex pigs that we are. But since I've been back in the USA it seems that the tradition of a free-for-all orgy is lost in 'Mericuhn gay culture. I've been invited to be a third in MMF and MMM situations, but no one seems interested in attending a private all male event. In the 70s I had to have bouncers at the door to my apartment to keep the uninvited away. Are young gay men adverse to consensual (and safe) no holds bard Bacchanalia these days, except for a quick suck at the Folsom Street Fair or in the back room of a leather bar? Consensus?