Osama bin Laden is Still Dead.

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Q. will the soldiers who blew him away, get the $25mil bounty?
If not then in a few months his dick and balls will be on sale on Ebay!

I've heard they are offering pilgramages to the site of his burial, giving supporters weighted belts to get down to view him.

Good riddence to scum.

well done to the soldiers who carried out the raid and ridded the world of an evil.
 

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who's to say this guy EVER existed. read 1984? It has been done before, CIA will do anything to get support for a war. Low Obama approval rating + discovery and killing of "Geronimo" = approval rating sky rocketing just in time for next election year. You do the math. "Terrorists" only attack this country if we WANT them to. The CIA thinks on a different plane, so Americans must do so as well to understand the entire picture.

While this is considered crazy talk for a majority of Americans, I've believed things like this for awhile now. Believe me, it wasn't easy to accept a lot of information like that, but I had the balls and brains to DO MY HOMEWORK and connect the dots. It just adds up more than anything.

I mean, seriously you guys. You can find HOARDS AND HOARDS of information on the internet today (AND IN DAILY LIFE) from people who know so much more than any of us, because they have worked within this system and it's their freedom to call out any bullshit they want - for OUR BENEFIT AND SAFETY. After all, this is America.

So you can believe what the television (predictive programming machine), newspapers, radio, etc. tells you, like all the masses. That's why they exist - to feed you whatever information they want. It's so simple. And it turns out that these very sources are extremely controlled themselves. This is the direction America is headed - a very, very controlled society on every level. If it isn't obvious now, then I don't know what is.

And nothing is hidden from us. You just have to dig a little and follow your conscience. Like I said, I too did not believe such "conspiracies", but once they prove themselves to you that they are in fact true, then things start to get, to say the least, VERY interesting.

There's so much more to life as we know it's absolutely, incredibly insane.

So for anybody to just blindly accept ANYTHING, including bullshit politics (because the good ol' days of REAL politics are gone, ya'll). And if you are one of those individuals who will take whatever our "controllers" feed us, then that's not a problem for them. They love it. They'll love you.

As for me, I'm not fooled.
 
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The usa seem quite closed and the press not 100% free. In uk every decision everything goes under the microscope I think the only main blacket was when prince harry was in afganistan and all the papers agreed that it would be best not to announce this
 

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While this is considered crazy talk for a majority of Americans, I've believed things like this for awhile now. Believe me, it wasn't easy to accept a lot of information like that, but I had the balls and brains to DO MY HOMEWORK and connect the dots. It just adds up more than anything.

I mean, seriously you guys. You can find HOARDS AND HOARDS of information on the internet today (AND IN DAILY LIFE) from people who know so much more than any of us, because they have worked within this system and it's their freedom to call out any bullshit they want - for OUR BENEFIT AND SAFETY. After all, this is America.

So you can believe what the television (predictive programming machine), newspapers, radio, etc. tells you, like all the masses. That's why they exist - to feed you whatever information they want. It's so simple. And it turns out that these very sources are extremely controlled themselves. This is the direction America is headed - a very, very controlled society on every level. If it isn't obvious now, then I don't know what is.

And nothing is hidden from us. You just have to dig a little and follow your conscience. Like I said, I too did not believe such "conspiracies", but once they prove themselves to you that they are in fact true, then things start to get, to say the least, VERY interesting.

There's so much more to life as we know it's absolutely, incredibly insane.

So for anybody to just blindly accept ANYTHING, including bullshit politics (because the good ol' days of REAL politics are gone, ya'll). And if you are one of those individuals who will take whatever our "controllers" feed us, then that's not a problem for them. They love it. They'll love you.

As for me, I'm not fooled.

I'm sorry sir but your post makes entirely too much sense. Logic isn't readily accepted around here.
 

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Like I said, I too did not believe such "conspiracies", but once they prove themselves to you that they are in fact true, then things start to get, to say the least, VERY interesting.
I direct you to a little synopsis of methodology for considering conspiracy theories recently posted by Michael Shermer in reference to his debate with Jesse Ventura:

Conspiracy Skeptical Principle #1: There must be some means of discriminating between true and false conspiracy theories. Lincoln was assassinated by a conspiracy; JFK was not. The Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by a conspiracy of Serbian operatives that triggered the outbreak of the First World War; Princess Diana was not murdered by the Royal Family or any other secretive organization, but instead died by the most common form of death on a highway: speeding, drunk driving, and no seat belt.

Conspiracy Skeptical Principle #2: Cognitive Dissonance and the need to balance the size of the event with the size of the cause. Jesse Ventura said: “Do you mean to tell me that 19 guys with box cutters taking orders from a guy in a cave in Afghanistan brought down the most powerful nation on earth?” First of all, America is alive and well, thank you, even though Ventura has since moved to Mexico. But, yes, as a matter of fact, that is the only way such an event can happen: Sizable cohorts of operatives in prominent positions (Bush, Rumsfeld, Chaney, the CIA, the FBI, et al.) are too noticeable to get away with such a conspiracy. (By the way, 9/11 was a conspiracy: 19 members of Al Qaeda plotting to fly planes into buildings without telling us ahead of time constitutes a conspiracy.) It is the lone nuts living in the nooks and crannies of a free society (think Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinkley, etc.) who become invisible by blending into the background scenery.

Conspiracy Skeptical Principle #3: What else would have to be true if your conspiracy theory is true? Jesse proclaimed on the show that the Pentagon was hit by a missile. His proof? He interviewed a woman on his conspiracy TV show who said she worked inside the Pentagon and never saw a plane hit it. Well, first of all, earlier in the show when I brought up Jesse’s conspiracy television series he discounted it, saying “that’s pure entertainment.” But now he wants to use an interview from that same show not as entertainment but as proof. As well, hardly anyone working in the Pentagon that day saw anything happen because they were inside the five-sided building and the plane only hit on one side, and even there, presumably (hopefully), people are actually working and not just sitting there staring out the window all day. But to the skeptical principle: As I said on the show, “If a missile hit the Pentagon, Jesse, that means that a plane did not hit it. What happened to the American Airlines plane?” Jesse’s answer: “I don’t know.” Sorry Jesse, not good enough. It’s not enough to poke holes at the government explanation for 9/11 (a form of negative evidence); you must also present positive evidence for your theory. In this case, tell us what happened to the plane that didn’t hit the Pentagon because there are a lot of grieving families who would like to know what happened to their loved ones (as would several radar operators who tracked the plane from hijacking to suddenly disappearing off the screen in the same place as the Pentagon is located). Finally, I directed Jesse and our listeners to Skeptic » Home » The Skeptics Society & Skeptic magazine to view the photograph of the American Airlines plane debris on the lawn in front of the Pentagon, below. Are we to believe that the U.S. government timed the impact of a missile on the Pentagon with the hijackers who flew the plane into the Pentagon?

Conspiracy Skeptical Principle #4: Your conspiracy theory must be more consistent than the accepted explanation. Jesse says that Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda did not orchestrate 9/11, and instead it was done by the Bush administration (or, he says, at least by Chaney and his covert operatives). As evidence, Jesse wants to know why Osama bin Laden has not been indicted for murder by the United States government. As well, he says, why was no one fired for not acting on the famous memos of the summer of 2001 that warned our government that Al Qaeda was financing operatives in America in flight training schools and that Osama bin Laden would strike on U.S. soil. Hold on there Jesse—first you say that Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda are innocent of this crime, and then you present evidence in the form of documents that the U.S. government was forewarned that Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda would attack us? Sorry sir, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t hold to two contradictory conspiracy theories at the same time and use evidence from each to support the other. (Well, you can, but that would be a splendid example of logic-tight compartments in your head keeping separate contradictory ideas.)

Principle no. 2 is not at all clearly formulated; in fact, it is not even formulated as a principle, but merely as a noun phrase. What I think Shermer was trying to say was that in evaluating a conspiracy theory, one should consider the extent to which it is driven by cognitive dissonance (e.g., "The absence of positive evidence of a cover-up is itself evidence that the cover-up is extremely powerful!") or by the presumption that large events, such as the attacks of 9/11, require large causes, such as a government conspiracy, as against a garden-variety terrorist conspiracy.
 

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You are correct Rangisrovus19. By saying these things you are a rare, thinking Patriot because there needs to be more Americans that question these motives. I am an Obama supporter, but these issues are above a president. I believe that even Obama can be scared into supporting old policies from past administrations to continue America's obsession with the military industrial complex. Our country is built on waging wars. Those presidents/candidates that appose this are buried before their time, so its only understandable that Obama would think about his self-preservation, he is only human. He has a family and he doesn't want to die. But, for those who believe that the President controls everything that goes on need to do some more reading and open your eyes. If you follow the media you need to seriously consider re-evaluation.

Ever since we defeated the Nazis, we became the Nazis. Look into "Project Paperclip" it is not a conspiracy theory and there are documents that you can read. Nazi scientists were co-opted in exchange for their immunity to help us learn propulsion, nuclear, and mind sciences. After discovering their ideas/plans we fell in love with them. They helped put us into space, created nuclear weapons, and taught us how to develop tactics of brainwash propaganda by the media. After WWII we have ran this country with fear mongering and never turned back. This country is dependent on having an enemy.

I WILL BE SO BOLD TO SAY THIS: There was NEVER a threat to our country from "terrorists." The word "al-queda" is a word WE devised, which simply translates in Arabic to "the data-base" and only refers to "risky individuals" that are compiled on a computer catalog. The Taliban was created BY US to assist the Mujahhideen in fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan during the 1980s. IF Osama ever existed, his "followers" are nothing but a random list thrown together to keep us in fear, they are NOT connected. This country relies on having a "bad guy", a visible one that you can hunt down and kill. Chances are that other "terrorists" have NO contact to Bin-laden or ever had. I will continue to go on and say that 9/11 was a massive covert operation/experiment in Mass-hysteria brainwash to get what the Bush administration really wanted, oil and to get the public to blindly support a war to steal it. It worked before during Pearl Harbor to get us into WWII and then later with the "gulf of Tonkin Resolution" that began the Vietnam War.

Once again, we are only attacked IF WE WANT TO BE. He have the most advanced intelligence agencies in the world and nothing slips through it. It is highly likely that the 9/11 hijackers were either a) CIA funded middlemen, or b) allowed to be flight trained and given a pass to bring those planes into the skies. How come that on that day Air security was shut down before the attacks even began??? To certain powerful American agencies, human life is a small price for what is really important, colonialism and fighting the Wars to initiate it.

In conclusion, whether or not Osama was real or imaginary, I believe this "killing" is just a way to ease the American government and politics AWAY from the "terrorist scare" because future administrations will not need that crutch any longer. It can be compared to how the "red scare" and McCarthyism was abandoned after the 1950's. So this can be looked in a positive light. Not only that but the war-mongering republicans will soon cease to exist in the new arena, they are too ignorant and the American public is sick and tired of their dishonest ways. It is about time we saw more Democrats. Before Obama, we only saw a democrat elected every 20 years or so. It is time this country ended its bullish, violent ways and supported a change. To talk with other countries rather than threatening them to oblige with military force.

* If you believe my opinions are idiotic I will not listen to you. It would be the same thing if a mentally retarded person called me slow, of course I would brush it off and smile. I will give you sympathy but I will not converse.
 
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I WILL BE SO BOLD TO SAY THIS: There was NEVER a threat to our country from "terrorists." The word "al-queda" is a word WE devised, which simply translates in Arabic to "the data-base" and only refers to "risky individuals" that are compiled on a computer catalog.
While you are buying into half-informed crap that you find on the Internet, why don't you give equal importance to the supposed fact that "al-qaeda" means "toilet seat"?

According to Wikipedia, the word means "the base" or "the foundation": so I'm sure that the speculation that you have credulously affirmed as a certainty has as much basis as the other one.
The Taliban was created BY US to assist the Mujahhideen in fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan during the 1980s.
You seem to have conflated the Taliban with the mujahadeen. The Taliban only came into existence in 1996.
IF Osama ever existed
We need no further evidence that you are a gibbering moron.

Once again, we are only attacked IF WE WANT TO BE. He have the most advanced intelligence agencies in the world and nothing slips through it.

Oh, but I see that you have provided that evidence anyway. Thank you.
 
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/snip/ I WILL BE SO BOLD TO SAY THIS: There was NEVER a threat to our country from "terrorists." /snip/

The families of the 9/11 victims, and the families of those soldiers who have been killed or seriously injured during the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan may beg to differ. Don't consider your statement "bold", consider it completely asinine.
 
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I think it's WAY overdue. We need to start discussing who is going to star in the movie. :veryhappy:

Who is going to star as the president, Hillary, CIA chief, Seals team, Osama, etc? Lead actor nominees? Jake Gyllenhaal? Meryl Streep as Hillary? Tommy Lee Jones as CIA chief?
 

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Al Qaeda itself is a conspiracy theory - it's just the official one.

When you start to be able to predict what is going to happen, if not exactly when - how does that pan out?

I never took much notice until I thought to myself, if Mikhail Khodorkovsky turns out to have entrusted his billions to the Rothschilds, then I'll know that something is fishier than week old tuna. Guess what? He did.

I read about the collapse of the financial system 18 months before it happened, & predicted I could make some easy dosh, & so started shorting banks & insurers 6 months before the bailout. The conspiracy there was the conspiracy of silence between the institutions, the government & the regulators.

Even I couldn't predict that they'd pay all those bastards back, that none would go to jail, & they'd let them keep control of the world, whilst still leeching away from Joe Blow. Now that is a conspiracy.
 

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I think it's WAY overdue. We need to start discussing who is going to star in the movie. :veryhappy:

Who is going to star as the president, Hillary, CIA chief, Seals team, Osama, etc? Lead actor nominees? Jake Gyllenhaal? Meryl Streep as Hillary? Tommy Lee Jones as CIA chief?

I propose Gilbert Gottfried for the role of Donald Trump.
 

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Al Qaeda itself is a conspiracy theory - it's just the official one.

When you start to be able to predict what is going to happen, if not exactly when - how does that pan out?

I never took much notice until I thought to myself, if Mikhail Khodorkovsky turns out to have entrusted his billions to the Rothschilds, then I'll know that something is fishier than week old tuna. Guess what? He did.

I read about the collapse of the financial system 18 months before it happened, & predicted I could make some easy dosh, & so started shorting banks & insurers 6 months before the bailout. The conspiracy there was the conspiracy of silence between the institutions, the government & the regulators.

Even I couldn't predict that they'd pay all those bastards back, that none would go to jail, & they'd let them keep control of the world, whilst still leeching away from Joe Blow. Now that is a conspiracy.
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