Osama bin Laden is Still Dead.

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Your cranium has sustained many sudden accelerations and decelerations.

Bollocks. I'm pure spirit hun.

Unfortunately, it seems the US administration must be festooned in tin, considering that their jingoistic reports of a brave, daring raid,& a fierce firefight against the world's most dangerous man, cowardly using his wife as a human shield in a luxury villa, have turned out to be a lot of hotheads shooting up the town, & an unarmed crippled old man & his family, in a pigsty in Pakistan. :eek:

Now they're saying - well he might have been wearing a suicide vest -what for 10 years?hahaha:tongue:

Tin foil? Mad conspiracies? Ladies & Gentlemen I give you the administration of the USA, & all those who swallow her shit.:biggrin1: Taking the piss out of her citizens since Johnson, to boot!
 
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Bollocks. I'm pure spirit hun.

Unfortunately, it seems the US administration must be festooned in tin, considering that their jingoistic reports of a brave, daring raid,& a fierce firefight against the world's most dangerous man, cowardly using his wife as a human shield in a luxury villa, have turned out to be a lot of hotheads shooting up the town, & an unarmed crippled old man & his family, in a pigsty in Pakistan. :eek:

Now they're saying - well he might have been wearing a suicide vest -what for 10 years?hahaha:tongue:

Tin foil? Mad conspiracies? Ladies & Gentlemen I give you the administration of the USA, & all those who swallow her shit.:biggrin1: Taking the piss out of her citizens since Johnson, to boot!

In your opinion. Seriously - you don't have to like our country, but you ought to respect it a least a little; after all, you and your country have benefited significantly from the power and military strength of the United States of America. Google 'British military capabilities in 1941'... do you really think Britain could have defeated Germany by itself?

Seizing on in-the-moment reportage and pointing out gaps in stories isn't newsworthy. Come back when you have something more intelligent to say.
 

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I never took much notice until I thought to myself, if Mikhail Khodorkovsky turns out to have entrusted his billions to the Rothschilds, then I'll know that something is fishier than week old tuna. Guess what? He did.
You forgot the Elders of Zion, New World Order, Holy Grail, Jewish takeover, Monty Python etc.
 

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Tin foil? Mad conspiracies? Ladies & Gentlemen I give you the administration of the USA, & all those who swallow her shit.:biggrin1: Taking the piss out of her citizens since Johnson, to boot!
You've got a war with almost 6,000 americans killed going nowhere; total economic incompetence heading towards banana republic status.

From this distance the US looks like a neurotic old woman.
 

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I didn't believe it when they said it.

That's the difference.The hyperbole came from the President's office - we're only getting the truth because there are key witness survivors.

Oh BTW, I've never said that I wasn't part American!


Even without the US, Britain was never invaded, nor even really planned to be either.
I do believe that the US was completely non-interventionist in the early war years, FDR was elected on that ticket - possibly that's something to return to. The US did come in, late, but because the US stopped the Allies advance, due to FDR's machinations with Stalin at Yalta, we didn't carry on & smash Uncle Joe, which the Brits, & of course, Patton, wanted to.

A war fought over Poland. Germany invaded one side, the Russians the other 2 weeks later. Only one side was declared war on.

Aim - to prevent much of Eastern Europe falling into a murdering tyrant's hands.

Outcome - Eastern Europe falls into a murdering tyrant's hands, & his oppressive successors for 45 years, & we start the military industrial complex, & pointless amounts spent on an arms race, & subsequent to that, unwanted global intervention, whilst creating the climate of fear which sustains it.

I'm not sure that any of it changed the end result in the long run.
 
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Oh BTW, I've never said that I wasn't part American!
Oh BTW, I don't think anyone asked.

Even without the US, Britain was never invaded, nor even really planned to be either.
Not that that big churning moat around the country had anything to do with it. :rolleyes:

I do believe that the US was completely non-interventionist in the early war years, FDR was elected on that ticket - possibly that's something to return to. The US did come in, late, but because the US stopped the Allies advance, due to FDR's machinations with Stalin at Yalta, we didn't carry on & smash Uncle Joe, which the Brits, & of course, Patton, wanted to.

A war fought over Poland. Germany invaded one side, the Russians the other 2 weeks later. Only one side was declared war on.

Aim - to prevent much of Eastern Europe falling into a murdering tyrant's hands.

Outcome - Eastern Europe falls into a murdering tyrant's hands, & his oppressive successors for 45 years, & we start the military industrial complex, & pointless amounts spent on an arms race, & subsequent to that, unwanted global intervention, whilst creating the climate of fear which sustains it.

I'm not sure that any of it changed the end result in the long run.
Thanks for the history lesson, Professor Crackhead. Now please put down the pipe.
 
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You forgot the Elders of Zion, New World Order, Holy Grail, Jewish takeover, Monty Python etc.

Who said I believed in that? Ad hominem associations aren't exactly analytical. Perhaps you should work for the Govt? Osama & Saddam - Muslim - therefore they must be in cahoots!:cool: That's the trouble with that kind of thinking.

Aren't you even curious as to who owns the Fed, & finances all this spending putting Americans in debt?

Oh BTW, I don't think anyone asked.

""Your" country" - would seem to indicate a unique identification.

Not that that big churning moat around the country had anything to do with it. :rolleyes:

Well duh, yes!

Thanks for the history lesson, Professor Crackhead. Now please put down the pipe.

And another putdown from Maxcock, who generally only ever posts in order to put down another.

Insults over analysis the whole time. I don't mind discussion or debate, but this playground mentality is quite juvenile. Grow up a little please, you're more Bush than Obama.
 

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:eek:Oh, please don't give that man ANY ideas. :eek:

:smile:

I also have scripts for the renewal of "The Last Dragon" starring Dave Chappelle as "Sho' Nuff" and a complete line-by-line revival of "Whatever Happened To Baby Jane" with Paris Hilton & Lindsey Lohan. But that's enough cinematic evil for now. :wink:
 

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I think it goes without saying that the world will undoubtedly be a better place without Bin Laden. However I suspect I'm not alone in feeling that there was something distasteful, if not indecent, about the sheer jubilation and triumphalism which followed his demise, particularly on the American side of the pond. If anything, it's the ending of a very tragic story. Bin Laden came from a wealthy background and could have had anything he wanted - just by asking. He didn't have to involve himself in terrorism. Sadly, that was the route he chose to take, no doubt knowing full well that those who live by the sword die by the sword.
 

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/snip/That's the difference.The hyperbole came from the President's office - we're only getting the truth because there are key witness survivors./snip/

The President released the truth... the White House has gone to great lengths to correct the storyline as evidenced here, here, and here.

/snip/Even without the US, Britain was never invaded, nor even really planned to be either./snip/

Wow... this is according to who? You? Perhaps your grasp of history doesn't include Operation Sea Lion, but I've provided a link so you can brush up your apparently scant knowledge of World War II facts. The operation was postponed in the fall of 1940 because of the success of the Battle of Britain, the British aerial defense of their island in which ten American pilots flew aircraft under the command of the RAF. Hitler's plan was to postpone Sea Lion until Goring could demonstrate air superiority, but he never got the chance to bring it back into play.

In fact, you can thank Uncle Adolph himself for Britain's narrow escape from wearing jackboots and sporting swastikas. By foolishly aligning himself with Japan in the Tripartite Pact in September of 1940, he allowed the Americans to join the war in the European theater the following year when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Britain was able to rely on the American war machine after war was declared on 8 December 1941 even though the United States had officially been providing aid and material since the March 1941 passage of the Lend-Lease Act.

The US and Britain enjoyed a close and special relationship throughout the 20th century because of our common heritage and our similar values and world-views. It's unfortunate you weren't aware of that.
 

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I think it goes without saying that the world will undoubtedly be a better place without Bin Laden. However I suspect I'm not alone in feeling that there was something distasteful, if not indecent, about the sheer jubilation and triumphalism which followed his demise, particularly on the American side of the pond. If anything, it's the ending of a very tragic story. Bin Laden came from a wealthy background and could have had anything he wanted - just by asking. He didn't have to involve himself in terrorism. Sadly, that was the route he chose to take, no doubt knowing full well that those who live by the sword die by the sword.


I agree with you about the distasteful celebrations in the United States, but perhaps if you read this commentary, you can put it into perspective. I'm not excusing it, but I think this helps explain the raw emotion behind it.

As part of an extended family who lost a very brave, but very young (and quite possibly ill-equipped) Marine in Iraq, my family had a wide range of reaction to OBL's death from elation to just more grief.

One other note about the celebrations: these weren't planned or sanctioned by any group or political party or political figure. They just happened. We could point an accusatory finger at football matches on "your" side of the pond and ask how it is that people destroy property and severely injure others -- and in a few rare cases -- actually die at a sporting event and you'd be similarly unable to explain or defend those actions.
 

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Is Lincoln REALLY dead....or just hanging with Elvis? Was JFK REALLY assassinated or was it a VERY early Oliver Stone movie just well staged with everyone in the area reading from a script? Is Regan really dead....or still calling the shots from a private island? I'm sure Martin Luther King just had a good Hollywood special effects make-up artist, and he's really with Bobby Kennedy kicking back with a few cold beers.......and did WW II really happen or was it the best damn war movie EVER produced....and we already know the Holocaust NEVER really took place.....and please will the real Saddam Hussein please come back to Survivor Island and claim your prize...........and walk on the moon? Hell there really isn't a moon.....just a very elaborate back drop hanging in the sky since time began! So where does all this bullshit come from?

My God......wake the fuck up people. Things REALLY DO happen.....and not EVERYTHING is open to some conspiracy theory or rehash for history's revision sake!

Of course not all things are exactly like some people want us to believe....but really....do you think ALL things are this way? Any chance that SOME things actually occur?

Bin Ladin IS dead....or is now the holder of the world's record for holding his breath under water with half his head removed by a flying projectile..........and NO, I'm not being naive!
 
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/snip/Do I believe there is a conspiracy? Who knows, but there hasn't been any clear proof that anyone is dead./snip/

/snip/
So you can believe what the television (predictive programming machine), newspapers, radio, etc. tells you, like all the masses. That's why they exist - to feed you whatever information they want./snip/

Gentlemen - please be sure to include this news item from CNN which discusses Al Qaeda's acknowledgement of Osama bin Laden's death in your next conspiracy theory post.
 

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Wow... this is according to who? You? Perhaps your grasp of history doesn't include Operation Sea Lion, but I've provided a link so you can brush up your apparently scant knowledge of World War II facts. The operation was postponed in the fall of 1940 because of the success of the Battle of Britain, the British aerial defense of their island in which ten American pilots flew aircraft under the command of the RAF. Hitler's plan was to postpone Sea Lion until Goring could demonstrate air superiority, but he never got the chance to bring it back into play.

In fact, you can thank Uncle Adolph himself for Britain's narrow escape from wearing jackboots and sporting swastikas. By foolishly aligning himself with Japan in the Tripartite Pact in September of 1940, he allowed the Americans to join the war in the European theater the following year when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Britain was able to rely on the American war machine after war was declared on 8 December 1941 even though the United States had officially been providing aid and material since the March 1941 passage of the Lend-Lease Act.

The US and Britain enjoyed a close and special relationship throughout the 20th century because of our common heritage and our similar values and world-views. It's unfortunate you weren't aware of that.

Yawn. Stop reading children's books on history. It's that level of analysis that plagues this site.

Adolf Galland, commander of Luftwaffe fighters at the time, claimed invasion plans were not serious and that there was a palpable sense of relief in the Wehrmacht when it was finally called off. Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt also took this view and thought that Hitler never seriously intended to invade Britain and the whole thing was a bluff, to put pressure on the British Government to come to terms.[41] In fact in November 1939 the German Naval staff produced a study (on the possibility of an invasion of Britain) and concluded that it required two preconditions, air and naval superiority, neither of which Germany ever had.[42]
Operation Sea Lion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In truth, Hitler could have wiped out the cream of the British army in 1940 at Dunkirk, & even bemoaned the lack of acknowledgement of his "sportsmanship" (his words) at the end of the war. The Germans never expected to advance so far, so quickly, & wanted a pact, or non-intervention pact with Britain (because, a you put it, they shared "common heritage and... similar values"), so that they could freely attack Russia. One of the details of that pact would have been the complete withdrawl from France & the Low Countries.

There should be a lot declassified in 2017 - so we might see more detail then.
 

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lol, everyone should be celebrating the death of bin Laden. The only reason why the Brits are butthurt, is because they hate America, and will do anything to bash it.

Americans lived in fear for a decade thanks to this asshole, and yes, terrorism will always be a threat, but this guy was able to live how many years in perfectly good seclusion? That's not good for American morale. The #1 most wanted man in the world is now dead!

I guess you'd also be bashing those who cheered when Hitler was dead.

Brits are the biggest bunch of wimps on the planet.