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taking this a little personal, aren't we Zora? If you have the guts to tell guys directly and bluntly to leave you alone I don't think that disproves what I said at all. We all know that you're 1 in a million, to say nothing of being 1 in 100. I know nothing about this one guy in particular nor much at all about things he has done, nor did I say that what I was saying had direct application to him or to the person making the post... and certainly not to you. The core of what I stated still stands inassailably: in general these terms including "stalker" get thrown around WAAAY too much. If you know someone and they are friendly toward you and give you no indication that they don't want to be bothered by you, there's nothing wrong with sending them an e-mail. I find it really bizarre how so many people think of their own readily available frequently published contact information as somehow sacred or protected. In this instance, the girl has her website published by her own action in her own profile here and gets irked when someone clicks on the link. That makes sense??? Now, this one guy in particular, maybe he was sending out harrassing or obscene e-mails, maybe he did so after being asked to stop, I have no idea, I wasn't speaking to him directly through most of my post. I was speaking in general terms.

Maybe you've been harrassed by men online, I certainly believe that, there are plenty of creeps out there and you are quite visible and well known on these forums. and maybe you've never used the term irresponsibly, I don't know. I never said that you did. But I know many many many women who have. Actions that some guy would take to get to know some girl will be perceived as romantic if that girl happens to think said guy is cute, those very same actions will be seen as creepy if she doesn't. By labeling every single guy who you don't like who happens to take an interest in you as "stalker" (and I'm using the universal you here Zora, not talking about you specifically)... then the word loses all meaning. There are real stalkers out there who are actually dangerous and I think it's dumb to be calling someone who is merely pesky, overzealous, or perhaps even obnoxious a "stalker".
 

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taking this a little personal, aren't we Zora? If you have the guts to tell guys directly and bluntly to leave you alone I don't think that disproves what I said at all. We all know that you're 1 in a million, to say nothing of being 1 in 100. I know nothing about this one guy in particular nor much at all about things he has done, nor did I say that what I was saying had direct application to him or to the person making the post... and certainly not to you. The core of what I stated still stands inassailably: in general these terms including "stalker" get thrown around WAAAY too much. If you know someone and they are friendly toward you and give you no indication that they don't want to be bothered by you, there's nothing wrong with sending them an e-mail. I find it really bizarre how so many people think of their own readily available frequently published contact information as somehow sacred or protected. In this instance, the girl has her website published by her own action in her own profile here and gets irked when someone clicks on the link. That makes sense??? Now, this one guy in particular, maybe he was sending out harrassing or obscene e-mails, maybe he did so after being asked to stop, I have no idea, I wasn't speaking to him directly through most of my post. I was speaking in general terms.

Maybe you've been harrassed by men online, I certainly believe that, there are plenty of creeps out there and you are quite visible and well known on these forums. and maybe you've never used the term irresponsibly, I don't know. I never said that you did. But I know many many many women who have. Actions that some guy would take to get to know some girl will be perceived as romantic if that girl happens to think said guy is cute, those very same actions will be seen as creepy if she doesn't. By labeling every single guy who you don't like who happens to take an interest in you as "stalker" (and I'm using the universal you here Zora, not talking about you specifically)... then the word loses all meaning. There are real stalkers out there who are actually dangerous and I think it's dumb to be calling someone who is merely pesky, overzealous, or perhaps even obnoxious a "stalker".
 

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NineInchCock_160IQ said:
taking this a little personal, aren't we Zora? If you have the guts to tell guys directly and bluntly to leave you alone I don't think that disproves what I said at all. We all know that you're 1 in a million, to say nothing of being 1 in 100. I know nothing about this one guy in particular nor much at all about things he has done, nor did I say that what I was saying had direct application to him or to the person making the post... and certainly not to you. The core of what I stated still stands inassailably: in general these terms including "stalker" get thrown around WAAAY too much. If you know someone and they are friendly toward you and give you no indication that they don't want to be bothered by you, there's nothing wrong with sending them an e-mail. I find it really bizarre how so many people think of their own readily available frequently published contact information as somehow sacred or protected. In this instance, the girl has her website published by her own action in her own profile here and gets irked when someone clicks on the link. That makes sense??? Now, this one guy in particular, maybe he was sending out harrassing or obscene e-mails, maybe he did so after being asked to stop, I have no idea, I wasn't speaking to him directly through most of my post. I was speaking in general terms.

Maybe you've been harrassed by men online, I certainly believe that, there are plenty of creeps out there and you are quite visible and well known on these forums. and maybe you've never used the term irresponsibly, I don't know. I never said that you did. But I know many many many women who have. Actions that some guy would take to get to know some girl will be perceived as romantic if that girl happens to think said guy is cute, those very same actions will be seen as creepy if she doesn't. By labeling every single guy who you don't like who happens to take an interest in you as "stalker" (and I'm using the universal you here Zora, not talking about you specifically)... then the word loses all meaning. There are real stalkers out there who are actually dangerous and I think it's dumb to be calling someone who is merely pesky, overzealous, or perhaps even obnoxious a "stalker".

Said the gloriously ignorant newcomer.

I haven't been here long either, but I know enough to deeply respect the women here in this forum for their honesty and open-mindedness. Odds are if they say he's a stalker, and he acts like a stalker, he probably is one. Trust the women here, they are some of the most decent women I have heard of.
 

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God, you people are not listening.

I don't distrust anybody here. This guy could be a total creep. From the few posts giving testimony about him, I don't doubt that he is. I was just making a general statement... Christ.

and I've been on these boards far longer than you if you only signed up in January. I just reregistered. As if that has anything at all to do with being able to state an opinion.
 

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NineInchCock_160IQ said:
God, you people are not listening.

I don't distrust anybody here. This guy could be a total creep. From the few posts giving testimony about him, I don't doubt that he is. I was just making a general statement... Christ.

and I've been on these boards far longer than you if you only signed up in January. I just reregistered. As if that has anything at all to do with being able to state an opinion.

Your little bar says Jan 2006. Oh and you introduced yourself a day or two ago.
 

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That's two guys now who have stepped up to minimize and excuse harassing behavior, both somewhat passionately. Neither knew anything about the guy who the thread is about. Very interesting. Methinks thou dost protest too much.
 

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NineInchCock_160IQ said:
and I've been on these boards far longer than you if you only signed up in January. I just reregistered. As if that has anything at all to do with being able to state an opinion.

And I have been around here far, far longer than you and I know of what Zora speaks. You should shut your pie hole until you know what you're talking about with respect to Zora. You should heed LINittanyLion's advice and trust the ladies here to know a stalker when they encounter one.

And I get your point that the term "stalker" is thrown around too much in general, but not around here. You just came back a couple of days ago and you don't know what has been going on here the last few months. Don't make assuming statements until you have been back long enough to know what you're talking about.
 

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I'm not assuming anything about anyone, as I've stated and restated ad nauseum. When did I ever say anything bad about Madame Zora? First she posts a reply as if I was speaking directly at her, and now Pappy is saying I don't know what I'm talking about in respect to her... but I still have YET to say anything that was about her.
I was making a general statement, throwing out a vaguely-related observation. You hypocrites who routinely pat yourselves on the back for being so open-minded and accepting on this forum.. and I've seen many of you do it.. are a little quick to jump down someone's throat for stating an opinion that goes somewhat against the grain. and NOWHERE was I defending harrassing behavior. If a girl asks me to leave her alone, I do, immediately. Personally I don't enjoy going after someone who is playing hard to get. If a certain behavior is unwanted, if it is expressed that it is unwanted, and if it is then repeated more than once... this does constitute harrassment and I do believe that is unacceptable. I never said anything to the contrary.

let me share an anecdote.

A friend of mine goes to the gym with me frequently on campus. We are both students enrolled at the school. One time there was this girl there who caught his eye, I noticed it as soon as we walked in he was checking her out. And she noticed too because she kept looking our way. They were making eyes at each other and smiling in each other's direction the entire time we were there. All three of us left at around the same time. My friend and I walked to my car. When we pulled back around the front of the gym we noticed the girl sitting on the steps as we drove past. She looked up, acknowledged us with a smile, and we continued driving. My buddy asked me if we could go back and offer her a ride, so we did. She says that she is there waiting on her mom to come pick her up. My friend is already out of the car at this point, he sits down and starts chatting it up. Through all this, the girl seems very friendly. I'm still sitting in my car listening to music but I can hear their conversation. They talk about their majors, about the school, about the gym. The girl says she has recently lost a lot of weight, pulls out her student ID.. which has her full complete name on it.. first and last.. hands it to my buddy for him to look at, I guess so he can see the weight she's lost. Her mom shows up and I didn't hear the next part of the conversation but my friend told me he asked for her number. She apparently told him to ask her for it again next time he saw her at the gym and that she is there around the same time every night. This was the first time Tom and I had gone as late as we were there.. around 8:00.. usually we go early in the afternoon. But my buddy wants to see this girl again so he goes to the gym without me one night about a week later. He tells me that he saw her again, and that he didn't get her number again because her mom was there waiting when they came out from the gym. Another week goes by... new semester starts.. my friend's got classes at night so he can't go the gym when this girl is there. Since she invited him to ask for her number again and seemed to be into him he decides to go ahead and look her up in the student directory.. free to any and every student at my school. Even though two weeks ago she had physically handed him her ID with a last name on it... he didn't think to make a mental note of it... guess he doesn't have his stalker skills down just yet. But he remembered that she said she was a psych major and what her first name was. Pulling up all psych majors at the school with that name on the school's website yields a single hit... look in the student directory and there's a phone number... I was in the room when he was doing this. It took all of maybe 90 seconds. So he calls her up, she answers, they start having what sounds like a lovely conversation. I leave the room to allow them some privacy and thy're chatting for the next 45 minutes. I come back when I hear him hang up the phone.. talk to him... he's pretty psyched about the call because he feel it went really well. 2 minutes later, the phone rings. It's this girl's MOM. She wants to talk to my friend, she goes on to lecture him about how her daughter doesn't appreciate being stalked, about how it was really weird for him to look up her phone number (in the freakin' student directory), and tells him to never call again. He doesn't. After all, he's not *actually* a stalker. He's about the single nicest guy I know. He never bothers this girl again. So tell me... was he being creepy? Does this count as stalking someone?
If so.. that really fucking sucks that we all have to be so isolated from one another. This is not an isolated event either, it happens all the freaking time.. to me.. to male friends... and then I also hear female friends of mine complain about guys making eyes at them in class or asking them out a single time and they use these terms. Maybe this level of overreaction is more common around college campuses, or maybe it's just that the younger generation is so much more paranoid (which I think is both true and very sad). I don't know. But I stand by everything I already posted, even if most of it was misinterpreted by those who would attack me for saying it. So what do you guys think honestly? and if my friends actions in this case were out of line... when, if ever, would it be appropriate to go the extra mile to find someone you may have met in class, online, at the gym, or anywhere else? I'm not talking about following someone in secret, showing up at their house unannounced, or leaving sexual or vaguely threatening voicemails at their place of employment. I'm talking about meeting someone you like who seems to like you, and spending a few minutes to try and find their phone number. You know when John Cusack does it everyone thinks it's great. so.. opinions? Has romance been killed by fear of urban legends?
and I realize that all of the above has absolutely nothing to do with this "Eagle" guy or whatever his handle was. and I'm not implying it does. Maybe I should have started a new thread.
 

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NineIn, I didn't read all of that, not to disrespect you but to point out one *I thought* obvious thing. This thread was about ONE specific guy that had sent extremely crude and harassing emails to almost all of the women here, which we discovered by talking to each other. If YOU were not talking about what everyone else was talking about, what relevance does it have here? Please start your own thread if you want to discuss the philisophical ramifications of female domination in society, but when we are discussing a specific person and you post in a manner that minimises what we experienced, you will only set yourself up for a gigantic "fuck you" because your input has nothing to do with reality. MY contact info is not in my profile, and he still found me all over the place, do you feel better now?
Maybe "Cunt-breathing dragon" is a term of endearment in your book, but I take it as harassment. I call it "stalking" when it evolves to spying on me on other fora and continuing emails like "I have let the FBI know about your illegal activities of having minors on lpsg, haha you and all the faggots are going to hell". Yeah, he's just misunderstood, maybe he needs a hug. Women are too sensitive- Fuck you.

The women here stick together, and will continue to do so to give each other a heads up on potential problems. Almost always, if they've gotten one of us, they've gotten the rest. Try responding to the actual subject being discussed if you're going to get indignant about being "misunderstood". In my opinion, we understood you just fine.
 

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NineIn has a very valid thread idea about oversensitivity (just don't put it in the "Sex With A Large Penis" section), it fit poorly enough with this one that it culminated in a Three's Company like chaos.

Stalker is an overused term, but if a woman I know uses it, I respect it and protect her until I can establish the level of threat the guy poses. Put my arm around her, walk her home, lay some guy out on the pavement, lay a kiss on her, even go up to shag in her apartment for hours on end if that is what the job requires (Hey, I'm a giver).

Being a scrawny, smart kid, I had my fair share of stalker/bullies. I grew up, took my licks, and learned to make bullies bleed so badly that they ran from me and told their friends. That is part of becoming a man.

Eventually, the bullies run short on men they can intimidate, so they turn to women. Unfortunately, women do not have that option in the same way men do. One night, one hour, 15 minutes can traumatize her forever, and possibly end her life because, on average, men are bigger, stronger, and more prone to violence. Protect first, ask questions later.

Some mean harm, some just want to intimidate. Eagle sounds like an intimidator, but I don't know him, and don't want to give advice that endangers somebody. So be safe ladies, and if you need protection, or to shag all night. You know where to find me.

Cunt Breathing Dragon?

That is the name of the Thursday special at my Chinese restaurant, Hung Far Low.
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pdrprst said:
NineIn has a very valid thread idea about oversensitivity

In my opinion, the issue is undersensitivity, which has been demonstrated persistently in this thread.
 

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This is all very puzzling to me.
I would like to understand the thinking of someone who spends there time typing out messages of harassment to strangers.
Is it just to get a reaction?
Most of the time there probably would be no response of any kind from the women.
Pretty much all the women who post on the discussion forum are lovely women (inside and out).
I would want to pay a compliment instead of making somebody angry or fearful..........
We've all got enough enemies without intentionally trying to make more.
I just don't get it.

And, the jerk who jumped all over Ms. Lulu, well there you are. He's a jerk...........


Sorry about the ramble...............
 

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insideoutside said:
I have nothing to do with whoever is "stalking" you, but this is what's displaying on your LPSG profile:

Home Page: http://www.xanga.com/alluveal
AIM: ladykrycek
MSN: msmyth71@hotmail.com
Yahoo: msmyth71

Next time you accuse someone make sure you are not so stupid to begin with.. but my guess is that you are just seeking attention here.. I hate those who say oh Xanga's gonna investigate this or Yahoo's investigating that.. AS IF they would investigate into something that only a dumbass would dream up lol.. and I work for a dotcom.
From what I've inferred here, this "eagle" character seems to be an asshole supreme with troll like tendencies, and I personally would not want him following me around to any home page I'd ever put.
Insideoutside, Your belligerence towards Ms Lulu not only borders on ignorance, but also downright rude. I don't know what lit a fire under your ass to slam anyone here, unless you secretly either are eagle himself, or are one of his few supporters.

Ms Lulu was being informative about a troublemaker here, and you respond with hostility and defensiveness. Do us all a very big favor; Next time before you post such an asinine reply, you shouldn't let your big mouth supercede your common sense.
 

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Webster said:
Pretty much all the women who post on the discussion forum are lovely women (inside and out).
I would want to pay a compliment instead of making somebody angry or fearful..........
We've all got enough enemies without intentionally trying to make more.
I just don't get it.

I totally agree with you here Webster. Being new to the site I've found every single woman posting to be just that: "lovely". The reiteration of that nasty "Dragon" comment is inexcusable.

Problem is that no matter how enlightened and well-adjusted the poster and the site (which I find to be one of the best message boards I've found to date) there's always some fuckwad who wants so stir up the pot and take out his control issues on the unsuspecting or those who too easily trust. I've leanred the hard way NOT to give out too much information on the internet. To do so one's simply asking for trouble.

Right now this is high drama but in due time this too shall pass.
 

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I have been here a while. I have exchanged pm and e-mails with several of the ladies. I have never had a problem of any of them accusing me in any way of doing anything improper.

Jana is my internet sister. We are very close. We pm or e-mail eacdh otehr when we are down and need encourement. And I have never been accused of stalking or harrasing one of the ladies here. There is a reason. I don't do that kind of stuff.

But from time to time, we have a jackass who shows up here at the LPSG and his purpose is to harrass the ladies. We all work together to get rid of them as soon as possible.

All the females I know here are ladies. They deserve respect. They have earned it.

If I were a lady and received the pms they have received I would react the same way I am sure.

Ladies, the regular guys here love and respect you. We are on your side in this.

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