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Let's see how simple we can make it: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are running deficits, or soon will, under the current financial stuctures. Our government, (both parties), has spent us into near bankruptcy, leaving us few options. Now, like many households, we have to cut back on non-essential spending AND look for ways to increase income (revenue) until we can put our financial house in order.

It seems to me that most (reasonable) people would take action before their personal finances became a crisis. But, it has been far to easy for the government to spend money we don't have.
 

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I sense frustration from some posting to this thread. Is common sence hard to deal with?

Sometimes the irony just writes itself.
Cheap shot, I know, but when one delivers one they can expect the same in return. But whatever, dude... national economic issues cannot be viewed through the overly simplistic lens that is household finance. If there's any frustration seeping from those you don't agree with, it's because they understand how complex the issue really is and would rather not see or deal with continued Fortune Cookie-esque, ABC Afterschool Special style ideas posing as solutions.
 
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If only we could apply our schoolhouse/church chapel/cotillion etiquette to the wars and conflicts raging across the globe. Share, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, don't hit....

It's common cents/sense/sins...

No more war if we just share our cookies and hug out.
 
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Let's see how simple we can make it: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are running deficits, or soon will, under the current financial stuctures.

I'm not sure why you picked those programs while leaving defense out. The U.S. spends more than twice it's nearest competitor on defense and war.
 

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I'm not sure why you picked those programs while leaving defense out. The U.S. spends more than twice it's nearest competitor on defense and war.
Well, that's because we seem to be policing the world. Got trouble in Libya? We're there (again) to sort things out.
You know, I'd have no problem cutting defense, but only if equal cuts were made to these other programs.
 

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Sometimes the irony just writes itself.
Cheap shot, I know, but when one delivers one they can expect the same in return. But whatever, dude... national economic issues cannot be viewed through the overly simplistic lens that is household finance. If there's any frustration seeping from those you don't agree with, it's because they understand how complex the issue really is and would rather not see or deal with continued Fortune Cookie-esque, ABC Afterschool Special style ideas posing as solutions.

Sorry for the grammer. Where's my smiley face if your going to grade my posts...lol
My comment about frustration was not directed towards any one person or group of people. It was a general comment. There is frustration no matter what your position is.
Just because someone doesn't agree with your position doesn't mean they are beneath you in their knowledge and understanding. Comments like "ABC Afterschool Special" is demeaning and unnecessary. Maybe you need to be open to other views no matter how rediculous you think they are and if you don't agree leave it at that.
 

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My comment about frustration was not directed towards any one person or group of people. It was a general comment. There is frustration no matter what your position is.

A general comment, cloaked to poke at your political opposition, of course. Let's not act naive here.

Just because someone doesn't agree with your position doesn't mean they are beneath you in their knowledge and understanding. Comments like "ABC Afterschool Special" is demeaning and unnecessary. Maybe you need to be open to other views no matter how rediculous you think they are and if
you don't agree leave it at that.

First off, everyone here (including yourself) make the occasional sarcastic comments. If you want to have a point here, you should refrain from referring to folks as being closed minded or intellectually weak. But besides that, it's still a little crazy to equate national economic issues to one's household finances. Just because one can balance ones personal finances doesn't make them an authority on balancing the books of the federal government. Just telling people to "cut spending" or "spend within their means" doesn't work without any specifics. Exactly what are we supposed to cut? How does one try to live within their means when jobs are continually being lost and replaced by lower paying ones with fewer benefits?

Lastly, one has to display a grasp of all arguments before they can make an informative, fact based response. Whereas some people think all they need to do is post what they believe and that is that, at some point facts do need to enter into the discussion. And when vital information is continually ignored (or dismissed) because of those with staunchly held beliefs that have little to no factual base, you can understand why frustration levels may escalate.

But whatever... you just gotta believe, right?
I guess it's time to find another thread. :no:
 
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A general comment, cloaked to poke at your political opposition, of course. Let's not act naive here.



First off, everyone here (including yourself) make the occasional sarcastic comments. If you want to have a point here, you should refrain from referring to folks as being closed minded or intellectually weak. But besides that, it's still a little crazy to equate national economic issues to one's household finances. Just because one can balance ones personal finances doesn't make them an authority on balancing the books of the federal government. Just telling people to "cut spending" or "spend within their means" doesn't work without any specifics. Exactly what are we supposed to cut? How does one try to live within their means when jobs are continually being lost and replaced by lower paying ones with fewer benefits?

Lastly, one has to display a grasp of all arguments before they can make an informative, fact based response. Whereas some people think all they need to do is post what they believe and that is that, at some point facts do need to enter into the discussion. And when vital information is continually ignored (or dismissed) because of those with staunchly held beliefs that have little to no factual base, you can understand why frustration levels may escalate.

But whatever... you just gotta believe, right?
I guess it's time to find another thread. :no:

I agree with you frustration but we all need to talk and be willing to do what's best for our country. This dialog does not exist and we, as country, are in a serious trouble. I hope we agree on that?
 
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I wouldn't knock the community colleges, after all it's mostly the folk who went to the Ivy Leagues that got us in this mess.

Right why bother with education at all? The liberal elite right? Everything you need to know you learned in kindegarten.
 

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well then to get back to the thread. If your household budget is out of control then it is time to look around for some extra income. Maybe pop round to the neighbours and suggest that perhaps they might be willing to contribute a bit towards your expenses since you have always cut the grass outside their house out of curtesy. Maybe ask if they might like you to do a bit more gardening for them, on a paid basis.

I think the equivalent for a government would be to raise taxes?