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He thought a female VP would shake up the race and attract "Hillary Democrats". He was wrong.
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Surely Palin's new MOVIE: THE UNDEFEATED due to be shown in Iowa this June makes it seem like she's planning a Presidential run in 2012.
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If you recall, he said it was a 'maverick' move to reject the usual suspects and go with a virtual unknown. I know a couple Hillary Democrats and they were actually offended that he'd [their words] "pander to women" by selecting Palin as his running mate.
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There are times that one wonders about the actual brain of Ms. Palin. Here she goes at a time when the public is watching. The story broke only a few hours ago and it seems now that she (Sarah) is absolutely furious that the ever brilliant Bristol is dating television actor Kyle Massey. It appears that Mama does not want her family integrated. Sarah needs to just shut her mouth because every time she opens it she paints herself into a corner. The spin doctors will be saying: "What she meant to say was. . . . ."
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She ain't running... for now. As long as she's on the payroll for Fox News, she's not going to run for President. Case in point, when people like Mitt Romney and Tim Pawlenty even hinted on the prospect of running they were quickly cut from the roster of contributors from Fox News. Huckabee, when he toyed with the idea and claimed that he had a major announcement to make a few weeks ago on his show, he never left the roster... and subsequently said he wasn't going to pursue it.
Everyone here knows I don't have many kind things to say about Fox News... at all. However, just like all other political issues one needs to follow the money before jumping to conclusions.
Everyone here knows I don't have many kind things to say about Fox News... at all. However, just like all other political issues one needs to follow the money before jumping to conclusions.
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Good point. Plus, I think she's addicted to the money of being a "celebrity" -- it certainly pays better than her old gig as Governor. I would imagine that's why she left her post as Governor of Alaska half-way through her term. After all, why would anybody choose public service when they can make easy money with no accountability being a "celebrity". If she were to announce a run, not only would she lose her well-paying Fox deal, she'd be subjected to awkward and inconvenient questions: answering for those ethics charges in Alaska, having to justify why she quit an elected office, and explaining how Trig Palin -- now 3, I think -- will be 'better off' with Mama Grizzly out on the road campaigning.
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I think VinylBoy and ColoradoGuy have summed it up best. I just don't think she will run because she can sit on the sidelines in 2012 where she can safely criticize President Obama and offer her 2 cents on a handful issues that a few fellow Republicans actually respect her opinion on.
But most of all I think she enjoys being a celebutante right now and is enjoying her extended 15 minutes in the limelight. She has far too many skeletons in her cupboard to take the bid. As stupid as I think she is I can't believe that she is so clueless to not know that she was a large contributing factor to loosing many republican votes to Obama in the last election including my own.
But most of all I think she enjoys being a celebutante right now and is enjoying her extended 15 minutes in the limelight. She has far too many skeletons in her cupboard to take the bid. As stupid as I think she is I can't believe that she is so clueless to not know that she was a large contributing factor to loosing many republican votes to Obama in the last election including my own.
I can't see the name of that particular city without recalling a moment in the 12th season of South Park in which the four Goth kids try to put an end to the vampire fad spreading among the schoolchildren by abducting the leader of the bunch and getting rid of him.
Goth 1: If we get the right packaging, we can just Fedex him somewhere far way.
Goth 2: How about we send him to Transylvania?
Goth 1: No, he'd probably see it as something to brag about someday to his little vampire buddies.
Goth 3: If we're going to send him somewhere, it should be the most horrible, most miserable place on Earth.
(Pause.)
Goths: (all four at once) Scottsdale!
Goth 2: How about we send him to Transylvania?
Goth 1: No, he'd probably see it as something to brag about someday to his little vampire buddies.
Goth 3: If we're going to send him somewhere, it should be the most horrible, most miserable place on Earth.
(Pause.)
Goths: (all four at once) Scottsdale!
(Video)
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She's now a multi-millionaire political pundit. She has more power now than if she actually were the president. Why would she give up such a sweet life to actually have to work for a living? She'll never run for president. She'll just make noise like P.T. Trump. Cash them Faux News Corp. checks. Ride around in red, white, and blue buses to show off how patriotic she is. The woman has attained the same status as Ed Schutz's opinion of Laura Ingraham, only we can now add "clown" to her list of achievements.
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Thanks for the link... I loved that episode -- especially because my former in-laws live in Scottsdale and I used to hate listening to them tell me how it was really "God's country". Jeez! I would go play golf or go to the grocery store and think "more like God's waiting room".
Sarah Palin isn't the only formerly relevant Republican that lives in Scottsdale... Dan Quayle also owns a house there. His son, Ben, represents Arizona's 3rd District in Congress, but Ben is better known for his postings on the 'Dirty Scottsdale' website. Here's the article if you missed it.
Catching just a glimpse of her yesterday at the Rolling Thunder rally convinced me that she's addicted to the media glare. She took Todd, Bristol and Willow with her to "honor our vets". I just wonder if Harley Davidson paid her for the product placement of their helmet? I was also trying to think of other "celebrities" who consciously pose for photographers with their young children (absent the paid People Magazine spreads or the paparazzi photos in the gossip magazines) and I couldn't think of any. It's very sick, and at the same time, masterful manipulation.
No-one recognises the other Republican candidates over here, unfortunately. Hope Palin's high-profile doesn't secure her the nomination. 
Will you put some more pics up if she runs?
Actually, it'd be pretty cool if Clinton crossed the floor, became a Nu-Republican (and introduced more centrist policies) and snatched the nomination off Palin. If she can't win the nomination as a Democrat...why not?
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Will you put some more pics up if she runs?
Actually, it'd be pretty cool if Clinton crossed the floor, became a Nu-Republican (and introduced more centrist policies) and snatched the nomination off Palin. If she can't win the nomination as a Democrat...why not?
Hillary flirted briefly with Republicanism while in college (an odd reverse of the prevailing norm), but Bill cured her of that. And though I know that there's no love lost between Obama and the Clintons, such a switch (and direct repudiation of her years working as his Secretary of State) would be political suicide.
Up until Obama came from virtually nowhere, she had been a poster child amongst "movement" conservatives (Teabaggers before the Tea Party actually existed, along with the other assorted nuts/freaks/religious zealots which make up the GOP's base) as the very personification of evil socialism and moral ambiguity (those lesbian rumors have never really gone away); this despite the fact that she actually chose to forgive Bill his peccadilloes with Monica (and gawd knows how many others) and continue their marriage. Her sudden turn to what was actually a very moderate right position on certain issues was a misguided effort to make Obama look much more extreme than is actually the case.
You've gotta remember, she expected a coronation, not a fight. The fact that Obama prevailed absolutely enraged her (to say nothing of Bill, whose contempt was palpable and very publicly displayed up until the convention). Even so, any abandonment of the GOP by Hillary would be an unforgivable act of heresy. Besides, she's simply not what the party, who was so very recently enraptured over Donald Trump's publicity stunt, considers an acceptable candidate. Her position on abortion alone would disqualify her instantly; she also has decades of evidence of her fiercely proud feminism which, again, disqualifies her permanently as any would-be Republican. There's no way it could happen.
Thirty or forty years ago, Obama would have fit right in as a moderate Republican, much in the manner of Ed Brooke.
Joll's post and Bbucko's very well-considered reply to it, above, put me in mind of something that I transcribed from a video and filed away a while back. Here are some words spoken by Bill Maher on his television show on June 28, 2009 (with a bit of bold type added):
Damn, that was good!
People talk a lot about a third political party in America. We don't need a third party; we need a first party. You go to the polls and your choices are the guy who voted for the first Wall Street bailout or the guy who voted for the next ten. This week, we're hearing that a public option for health care is unlikely because it doesn't have the support of enoughDemocrats! Even Ted Kennedy's planTed Kennedy, yeahleaves 37 million uninsured. This is because we don't have a left and a right party in this country anymore. We have a center-right party and a crazy party. And over the last thirty-odd years, Democrats have moved to the right, and the right has moved to a mental hospital. So what we have is one perfectly good party for hedge-fund managers, credit-card companies, banks, defense contractors, big agriculture, and the pharmaceutical lobbythat's the Democrats; and they sit across the aisle from a small group of religious lunatics, flat-earthers, and Civil-War reenactors who mostly communicate by AM radio and call themselves the Republicans, and who actually worry that Obama is a socialist.
Damn, that was good!
I so hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Sarah Palin, but I know they're not. They want a shot at winning. No way are they throwing it all away on that airheaded bitch.
^ That's great Cal - certainly how it seems from here.
Drifterwood did a good comparison of the UK vs US parties - basically saying the Dems sit somewhere similar to moderate UK Conservatives, with Labour further left, and the Republicans a long way to the right.
Seems like the Republicans would need to come quite a way towards the centre to be credible (to a UK mindset), and the Democrats could do with moving towards a centre left position? The Tea-Party movement seems a bit baffling and frankly, scary from over here (well...to me, anyways).
Thanks for the thorough response, btw, Bbucko.
Drifterwood did a good comparison of the UK vs US parties - basically saying the Dems sit somewhere similar to moderate UK Conservatives, with Labour further left, and the Republicans a long way to the right.
Seems like the Republicans would need to come quite a way towards the centre to be credible (to a UK mindset), and the Democrats could do with moving towards a centre left position? The Tea-Party movement seems a bit baffling and frankly, scary from over here (well...to me, anyways).
Thanks for the thorough response, btw, Bbucko.
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