Palin would support war with Russia

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  1. sargon20

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    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, emerging from media silence for her first serious interview as the GOP vice presidential pick, said Thursday that the United States might have to go to war if Russia were to invade Georgia again.
    And on the seventh anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, she appeared entirely unfamiliar with the Bush Doctrine, the central foreign policy tenet of the current administration, which asserts the right to wage preventive strikes in the aftermath of such terrorist attacks.
    Palin made her statements during an interview with ABC "World News" anchor Charles Gibson in which she was pressed on her foreign policy credentials and knowledge. Additional Gibson interviews with Palin will be broadcast today on ABC.
    Palin said she favors admitting Georgia and Ukraine to NATO. Asked if the United States would have to go to war if Russia again invaded Georgia when it was a NATO member, Palin said, "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.
    "And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable," she told Gibson. Russia invaded Georgia after the ex-Soviet republic invaded the separatist region of South Ossetia.
    Palin said she had insights into U.S. relations with Russia because "they're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska ... from an island in Alaska."
    During the interview in Fairbanks, Alaska, Palin acknowledged that she had never met a leader of a foreign country and that she had visited only Canada and Mexico before a trip to Kuwait and Germany to visit U.S. troops last year.
    "But, Charlie, again, we've got to remember what the desire is in this nation at this time. It is for no more politics as usual, and somebody's big fat resume that shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment, where, yes, they've had opportunities to meet heads of state."
    'Ready' to serve

    But she insisted she was ready to be Sen. John McCain's vice president - and, if necessary, president of the United States.
    "I answered (McCain) 'yes' because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can't blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we're on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can't blink," she said.
    Throughout the interview, Palin appeared prepared, though she stuck to carefully constructed talking points. In one segment, asked to explain what the country should do if Israel struck Iranian nuclear facilities, she repeated three times that the United States cannot "second-guess" what Israel must do to defend itself.
    But she seemed off-balance when asked about the Bush Doctrine - which includes preventive war, spreading democracy to eliminate terrorism and brandishing power to force other countries into line.
    Asked if she agreed with the Bush Doctrine, she asked, "In what respect, Charlie?"
    Said Gibson: "What do you interpret it to be?"
    Palin: "His worldview."
    Gibson: "No, the Bush Doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war."
    Palin answered that she believed the president "has attempted ... to rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell-bent on destroying our nation."
    After Gibson informed her of the doctrine's definition of "anticipatory self-defense" against any country that might attack the United States, she replied: "If there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend."
    Asked if that meant a right to go to conduct cross-border attacks from Afghanistan without the approval of the Pakistani government, Palin said, "We have got to have all options out here on the table."
    Palin - who has spoken in her church about U.S. troops being "on a task that is from God," was asked if she believed the United States is fighting a "holy war."
    Quoting Abe Lincoln

    She deflected the question and said she was merely quoting Abraham Lincoln, adding, "I would never presume to know God's will."
    On other issues, Palin appeared to do a sharp turn on the issue of man-made global warming in a part of her interview broadcast on "Nightline."
    In an August interview with the conservative Web site Newsmax.com, Palin said, "I'm not one, though, who would attribute (global warming) to being man-made."
    But asked Thursday whether she believed man had a role in it, Palin said:
    "I believe that man's activities certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change. ... Regardless of the reason for climate change, whether it's entirely, wholly caused by man's activities or is part of the cyclical nature of our planet - the warming and the cooling trends - regardless of that, John McCain and I agree that we gotta do something about it, and we have to make sure that we're doing all we can to cut down on pollution."
    The interview will be broadcast in three parts over the next two days. ABC's "World News," "Good Morning, America," "Nightline" and "20/20" will all feature the interview.
    The broadcasts will include biographical footage of Palin and coverage of her 19-year-old son, Track, who is scheduled to be deployed to Iraq this week.
    Prior to Thursday, the GOP governor was virtually inaccessible to reporters on critical issues like national security, terrorism and the economy.
    In the week since she accepted the nomination at the Republican National Convention, Palin has stuck mostly to the script reprising her widely praised speech - and has not taken media questions when appearing at the side of her running mate.
    The protective cocoon surrounding her has provided a sharp contrast to GOP presidential candidate McCain, who has had a generally warm relationship with media at his events, where he has welcomed their questions.
    The McCain team has created a "truth squad" to protect her from charges in the media. And it has surrounded her with seasoned Bush operatives and media handlers to prepare her for Gibson and the coming debate with Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Joe Biden.
     
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    In regards to the thread title, if Sen. Obama were asked the same question, ("Would the US have to go to war with Russia if it were to invade Georgia if Georgia is a member of NATO?) he had damned well better say that he would support a war. If not, he has no business being President.

    Since the North Atlantic Treaty requires all signatories to regard an attack on one member's soil as an attack on its own soil, it is effectively the same questions as, "If Russia were to invade the US should we go to war?" The answer is obvious.
     
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    This is silly. We're going to war with Russia around the same time we go to war with China. Never.
     
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    When you get a dumb ass in charge..ANYTHING is possible
    Look at the mess that monkey faced devil did all on his own!!!
     
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    At long last our tax dollars at work!


     
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    This woman has no more business being VP than Richard Simmons does. God help us.
     
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    Why are people so fucking stupid?

    We spent 50 years trying NOT to have a nuclear holocaust.

    A war with Russia would mean the end of civilization as we know it.

    Why do people buy into this shit?

    Clearly middle aged people today do not understand what it was like to live under constant threat of nuclear annihilation. Russia might just have more nuc's as well. And they DO have more group troops. DUMB DUMB DUMB.

    People like this are going to get us all killed.
     
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    I like Governor Palin, but I have to agree. That answer scared the crap out of me.
     
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    I vote for issuing her a weapon and telling her she's the entire USA army on the Russian front.

    NCbear (who remembers that in Xanth, a magic country created by Piers Anthony, overly aggressive soldiers were issued bayonets and assigned to dragon-hunting duty; the practice cleaned out a few of the nastiest dragons and most of the overly aggressive men :tongue:)
     
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    No, we'll never go to war with Russia - at least probably not in any of our lifetimes... just as Vindicator said, we've spent 50 years trying NOT to have a nuclear holocaust... we'll never go to war with China either, because our economies depend too greatly upon each other. To think that Sarah could be one heartbeat away from the presidency, should McCain be elected and anything happen to him... *shudders with uneasiness*
     
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    We all just have to vote in November against her and hope that she and McCain don't win! I hate to even think what would happen if they won.... I am crossing my fingers they don't win!!!
     
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    I know. That is the saddest thing about humans. It seems all the lessons of previous generations are lost. War with Russia would mean the end of the planet. But some religious zealots think of it as the fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
     
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    If McCain/Palin get in... let the following serve as the abbreviated list of executive decisions that will be made and the fruit of that labor;

    1. Redeploy to Afghanistan, 75k troops - small coalition

    2. Redeploy in Iraq, 120k troops. Set up airbase, and military post in each major city. Permanent occupation. - no coalition

    3. Invade Iran, "preemptive" strike(s) - no coalition

    4. Due to #3, Russia makes veiled threats to the US. Bombs the US missile defense system in Poland and call it "preemptive".

    5. McCain calls on congress to bring back the draft and defend America against mother Russia. 100k troops sent to defend Poland

    6. With half of our military deployed in 4 countries, pundits ask, "Has WWIII begun?"

    7. China, tired of American aggression in the middle east, sells off our debt for pennies on the dollar. The USD begins trading @ .45 EUR to $1. The markets are now for the first time based on the EUR, not the USD.

    8. The weak dollar causes Carter-like inflation to set in. More of the same in terms of foreclosures, bank implodes, etc. The US cannot afford to bail out anymore banks. Price gouging starts to set in as the dollar is so weak.

    9. The US, unable to sell treasury notes, deploys the highest tax hike in US history to pay for 4 on-going wars.

    10. McCain/Palin start blaming the Dem congress for our final undoing. Rhetoric turns to hate, hate turns to blood in US streets. We're at war with ourselves now.

    I hope I am wrong, but this is where we are headed folks. You better recognize. We cannot afford 4 more years of the last 8.
     
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    Sarah is more qualified than anyone else in this country when it comes to Russia! She is the Govener of the only State which you can from one Alaska island you can actually see Russia!!! If that doesn't make you a expert on Russian affairs I don't know what does. So there!!! She is 100% qualified!!!
     
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    The idea of allowing Georgia, a tiny country of no strategic importance whatsoever, into NATO is lunacy. It would only serve as a provocative act toward Russia and would further no other purpose for the allies. It would be as though the former Soviet Union had allowed Nicaragua, or Mexico for that matter, to join the Warsaw Pact.

    As for Sarah Palin appearing "prepared", she was about as prepared as a high school student who had crammed for an exam over the weekend, which obviously she had. She parroted her answers, repeating stock lines over and over again. She had her concepts down, but she'd obviously forgotten to read some of her text books.

    This woman is so clearly inexperienced and UNprepared to take on a job where she's a "heartbeat away from the presidency" that it's frightening. And her confidence level, which borders on arrogancy, makes it doubly so.
     
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    She is GWB in high heels and lipstick. :rolleyes:
     
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    Perhaps she would like to 'rectify' Alaska's borders by adding the Komandorski Islands, the Donut Hole, Big Diomede, and Wrangell Island.:wink:
     
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    I have heard arguments that someone is qualified, but this is the first I have read of a person claiming that if you have seen the land of a country, it makes you qualified. So all people who live in Alaska are qualified to be president because they have seen a part of Russia?

    Surely you jest.
     
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    I wish we were jesting:
    YouTube - Palin has security experience b/c Alaska is close to Russia

    YouTube - Doocy: Alaska is Next to Russia

    YouTube - Alaska near Russia = foreign policy experience?

    and I couldn't resist this one!

    YouTube - Sarah Palin Miss Teen Mashup - John McCain's VP Pick
     
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    You forgot the best one.. where she herself actually tried to tell Charlie Gibson she could see Russia from Alaska.
     
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