Pardon our sexuality Barn'

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Northland, Oct 10, 2009.

  1. Northland

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    ...and so it was.

    U.S. Representative, Massachusetts 4th, Barnett (Barney) Frank, originally from Bayonne New Jersey (born there March 1940) has declared the National Equity March slated for this Sunday to be useless and 'a waste'. He says it 'misses the mark'. He may be right about it missing the mark, only time will tell on that. The part which I find more troublesome here is, Congressman Frank has the potential of making this march something greater by participating in it himself. By not doing so, he does a disservice to not only himself but to gays and the LGBT community in their collective entirety.

    Now, I understand his belief that this will have less of an impact during this particular weekend; as, many Senators and Congresspeople have gone back to their snazzy little homes for the weekend. However, why isn't he in some way proud of the people who are willing to stand up for what they want? Why doesn't he articulate the beauty of seeing democracy in action as these men and women step forward and indicate their want and need for the same rights for themselves as exist for so many others? Why doesn't Mr.Frank, take time this weekend and join the march? He would still have all of Sunday and Monday for himself and his constituents.

    Now onto the articles (both through the Associated Press):

    Barney Frank says D.C. gay rights march misses mark - BostonHerald.com
    which includes this (which has a positive note regarding President Obama and what he is doing tonight (Saturday October 10):


    'Many gay rights advocates have criticized President Barack Obama for not moving faster to keep his campaign promises to extend gay rights, and Congress has also drawn flak for not doing more. Obama plans to speak Saturday at a dinner hosted by the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest gay rights group.'


    and also: ABC 13 - National News which gives this tidbit: 'Frank's comments underscore divisions in the gay community over the pace of progress on civil rights.

    President Barack Obama's election and the Democrats' control of the House and Senate, boosted hopes for breakthroughs on sweeping measures to end discrimination against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, but there's been little action. March organizers say they're no longer willing to wait quietly.'



    This is a matter which effects all of us, heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, transgendered, antisexual and globosexual (and others who I have not included due to space limit). To not back this march, Congressman Frank, for all his talk about being gay, becomes about as useless as he says the march itself will be. He should be proud and willing to stand up and be part of a group of people looking to increase rights for all, including Congressman Frank.

    (and did you know that 'transgender' is not a word with which spellcheck is familiar)
     
  2. Northland

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    ***bump***



    It would be interesting to see at least some sort of response or is Barney Frank one of those sacred items along the lines of Charles Rangel who is to never be spoken against?


    No matter. Here we are in the weekend of the 11th anniversary of the savage beating death of Matthew Shepard and something which would perhaps have been seen by him as a positive move forward in the fight for rights for all, and not a one of you can even generate a response.




    Not even along the lines of what Congressman Frank said?
     
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    Whether or not the march is effective in the literal sense of changing lawmakers' votes, it has great symbolic value in demonstrating visibility, solidarity and power. Barney Frank does us more than just a huge disservice with these comments; it borders on repudiation and betrayal.
     
  4. Northland

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    ...and now with still less than 100 views, I thank the lot of you (with the exception of Nick8, who at least responded) for showing your usual hypocritical beings.


    You have an opportunity to sound off, speak up on a subject you supposedly care about, and remain silent. Good. Stay that way. Just don't do the moan and groan, cry and whine when you don't get any rights, because the fact of the matter is, you clearly don't want them so don't bother pretending later on that you do. If you won't take your hero Barney Frank to task for telling people to hide in the closets and not show their faces, then you don't deserve any rights either. Stand up and fight, or sit in your own destruction and the resulting rubble.
     
  5. Bbucko

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    You solicit our opinions with insults?

    Congrats: you're now on my ignore list. Hopefully you can keep Trinity company there.
     
  6. Northland

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    Someone convey my laughs to him and remind him that he still did not address the opening statement,

    It's been a fun week, I've been again lumped in with Flashy (nothing against Flashy; but once more: Flashy speaks for Flashy and I speak for me). I've been called a barbarian and in the one meant to be an insult, was told that by someone that 'they would not take the Hyacinth Bucket treatment' from me. Not knowing what this was (apparently a television character) the attempted insult fell short. And now I am lumped in with Trinity. I have never to my knowledge interacted with Trinity and as is the case with Flashy, Trinity speaks for Trinity and I speak for myself.




    Now, what I did was this- I indicated that what I did, was call people out on their alleged support of people; but, when push came to shove, they were nowhere to be found. If Bbucko or anyone else feels this is an insult, they'd be advised to ask why they are taking it so personally. I simply stated what I feel is a truth (note to those who like to alter text and then respond, I am making clear this is what I believe, it does not necessarily jibe with what you or anyone else might believe).
     
  7. midlifebear

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    Don't you be saying bad things about my Flashy (ignorant slut that he is). Hands off! As for Barney Frank, despite his views on the National Equality March, he's done more for equal rights (for both straight and gay men and women) simply by being more intelligent than 90% of his peers in the House. He's a significant role model for homophobes in both the House and the Senate and obviously the good people of Massachusetts like him well enough or he would have long ago been voted out of office.
     
  8. B_VinylBoy

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    Three days later after making the comment and you STILL display the inability to read. :rolleyes:

    Here's my comment again: So forgive me if I bypass the Hyacinth Bucket treatment and say that you simply don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

    First off, where did I said that I wouldn't take some kind of treatment from YOU? I mean, I won't put up with anyone's bullshit but it's clear that I said that about myself. Of course, because of your need to paint yourself as the victim in threads (because I'm still amazed that you tried to label me as a bigot after making a cartoon reference), you assumed that I was calling you names even with this statement. WRONG! :rolleyes:

    But I feel a bit charitable this evening, so let me walk you through the comment. Thanks to your thread asking who Hyacinth Bucket was, you now know what it references. If you actually used your mind, the answers given to you in that thread painted a very vivid picture of certain people on this board who have the same exact characteristics. You know, people who act "holier than thou" (even though we all know the act is one big sham). People like this also seem to think that just because they use decorative, fancy words in their rebuttals and don't quote/re-edit people's posts that it makes them "more mature" than the other person even if they're essentially not saying anything of any substance. Your act on this board is just like Hyacinth's self-portrayed image of sophistication. It's all one big lie... this is a penis site for Christ's sake!!

    But that's not even the gist of my statement.
    If you go back to my post, I essentially told you that I could be like you and give a sophisticated answer to your accusations in an attempt to look as if I have something of value to say OR I could just get to the point and cut you down to size in a language that is more suited for the subject at hand. Again, I could have told you that "your assessment of my subconscious convictions, combined with your perspicacious peroration of my mannerisms to be childlike are severely short-sided". That is, if you were trying to be civil and if I was more interested in "Keeping Up Appearances", acting like Hyacinth Bucket. But that's not me, especially to those that don't deserve it. So I bypassed the "Hyacinth Bucket treatment" and say that you simply don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Get it now? Probably not, but at least you have something else to think about.

    BTW, are you still going after folks and condemning them for changing the content in people's text? Keep in mind, Jason_Els, HazelGod, sargon20, Industrialsize and many other people have done it too. Yet I don't see you chasing them around in threads calling them immature, now do we? Of course not... Moron. :rolleyes:

    And now you're going after Bbucko? LOL!!
    Perhaps playing the victim is a suitable role for you after all? Because you don't stand a chance against him intellectually. Step away from the computer and go lick your wounds. Better yet, go watch some British comedies so you can learn when someone is engaging in camp when insulting you.
     
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  9. B_Nick8

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    I suppose I should state for the record that I generally love Barney Frank. I was, however, disturbed by these particular comments on this specific subject.
     
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    Northland, it's a holiday weekend. Nobody ever pays attention to anything around here on a holiday weekend. It's the worst time to start a thread.

    I frankly don't give a shit about Barney Frank's opinion. It's ill-informed and condescending, following just about everything else the Dems have promised and not delivered for gay rights. Enough of the talk and telling us to wait patiently. Fuck that. A right is a right, not a privilege. We're not children begging mommy and daddy to stay up late.
     
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    Well put Mr. Jason_Els. Well put.
     
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