Paris climate accord... we're out

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I'm loving how so many people are flipping shit about "climate change", but no one seems to give two f***s about the Fukushima nuclear leak that has essentially f****d the entire North Pacific, and possibly the Pacific as a whole.

So instead of trying to prevent climate change, we should try to prevent the Fukushima nuclear leak?
 

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So instead of trying to prevent climate change, we should try to prevent the Fukushima nuclear leak?
Well considering how much radiation is in 1/4 of the worlds oceanic existence, and continuing to leak into it causing dead sea life to blanket the west coast, I think it's a fuck load more important than worrying about what's going to happen 500 years from now. This problem could potentially end us in far less time than smog.
 

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Well considering how much radiation is in 1/4 of the worlds oceanic existence, and continuing to leak into it causing dead sea life to blanket the west coast, I think it's a fuck load more important than worrying about what's going to happen 500 years from now. This problem could potentially end us in far less time than smog.
Being concerned with fukishima and Climate change are not mutually exclusive. It may be too advanced for you. It requires holding 2 thoughts in your head at the same time.
 

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Being concerned with fukishima and Climate change are not mutually exclusive. It may be too advanced for you. It requires holding 2 thoughts in your head at the same time.
Being concerned with the bear attacking you more than the approaching fire is only logical. Leave it to the likes of liberals to willingly burn in a fire while they condemn how fast help arrives.
 
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Well considering how much radiation is in 1/4 of the worlds oceanic existence, and continuing to leak into it causing dead sea life to blanket the west coast, I think it's a fuck load more important than worrying about what's going to happen 500 years from now. This problem could potentially end us in far less time than smog.
yes... infowars... 2013.....
STUDY: FUKUSHIMA RADIATION HAS ALREADY KILLED 14,000 AMERICANS
https://www.infowars.com/study-fukushima-radiation-has-already-killed-14000-americans/

CLAIM
Image shows radioactive seepage spreading across the Pacific Ocean from the Fukushima nuclear plant.
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FALSE

det-red.gif


ORIGIN

that chart did not actually track or measure radioactive discharge emanating from Fukushima in 2013, or any other aspect of the Fukushima disaster. It was a plot created by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) immediately after the Tohoku earthquake in March 2011 showing the wave height of the tsunami that followed. It had (and has) nothing to do with the flow or spread of radioactive seepage from Fukushima.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/fukushima.asp
 
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Being concerned with the bear attacking you more than the approaching fire is only logical. Leave it to the likes of liberals to willingly burn in a fire while they condemn how fast help arrives.
That doesn't even make sense. But I'm not surprised, you believe Obama is not a citizen, Sandy Hook never happened, 9/11 was an inside job etc.........There is no sense in discussing politics with you as you operate in a fact free zone.
 

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That doesn't even make sense. But I'm not surprised, you believe Obama is not a citizen, Sandy Hook never happened, 9/11 was an inside job etc.........There is no sense in discussing politics with you as you operate in a fact free zone.
And you can't seem to grasp the finite temperature at which jet fuel burns and structural steel melts.
 

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And you can't seem to grasp the finite temperature at which jet fuel burns and structural steel melts.
Everyone who tries to have a legitimate discussion about anything just needs to look at this post.
 

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yes... infowars... 2013.....
STUDY: FUKUSHIMA RADIATION HAS ALREADY KILLED 14,000 AMERICANS
https://www.infowars.com/study-fukushima-radiation-has-already-killed-14000-americans/

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Image shows radioactive seepage spreading across the Pacific Ocean from the Fukushima nuclear plant.
RATING
FALSE

det-red.gif


ORIGIN

that chart did not actually track or measure radioactive discharge emanating from Fukushima in 2013, or any other aspect of the Fukushima disaster. It was a plot created by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) immediately after the Tohoku earthquake in March 2011 showing the wave height of the tsunami that followed. It had (and has) nothing to do with the flow or spread of radioactive seepage from Fukushima.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/fukushima.asp

Love it. You use snopes to refute something actually happening.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukush...n-crisis-of-worldwide-nuclear-radiation/28870

Keep believing MSM
 

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Yea..... physics. Beyond your comprehension.
Sir, you believe that the children of Sandy Hook were not murdered and it was a false flag operation. You also believe that Orlando Massacre was also a false flag. You have never seen a conspiracy theory to which you didn't ascribe. You operate from a place of ignorance and paranoia.
 

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Sir, you believe that the children of Sandy Hook were not murdered and it was a false flag operation. You also believe that Orlando Massacre was also a false flag. You have never seen a conspiracy theory to which you didn't ascribe. You operate from a place of ignorance and paranoia.
Sir, you believe that the children of Sandy Hook were not murdered and it was a false flag operation. You also believe that Orlando Massacre was also a false flag. You have never seen a conspiracy theory to which you didn't ascribe. You operate from a place of ignorance and paranoia.


"Grieving parent who's child was 'murdered' the day before".

Seems legit.
 

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Sir, you believe that the children of Sandy Hook were not murdered and it was a false flag operation. You also believe that Orlando Massacre was also a false flag. You have never seen a conspiracy theory to which you didn't ascribe. You operate from a place of ignorance and paranoia.

What does this have to do with climate change or the Paris Accord?
 

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And you can't seem to grasp the finite temperature at which jet fuel burns and structural steel melts.
"MELTED" STEEL
Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.
"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/
 
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Follow your herder. Don't dare think for yourself.
"MELTED" STEEL
Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.
"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

So..... if this is definitive..... liberals still want to let American hating muslims into this country because they are "refugees". Cool deal. What could possibly go wrong?
 
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BUT...... back to topic. The overwhelmingly vast majority of countries (almost 200) have no tangible obligation in the treaty. The US was (arguably) the only one doing anything it agreed to, and the others were basically mooching our money, so we "left", i.e. *made a good business decision*. Let's also not forget, that this accord, when put in place, was never authorized by congress. Guess who did that? Whoops.
 

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Last I checked there is still dry land in CA and FL. Try again dumb ass.
I know your kind doesn't know how to do research but look around sometimes and you'll see that projections are for parts of Florida to be underwater.

Kinda dumbass of you to say that there is no problem just because ALL of the land isn't underwater just some.
 

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I know your kind doesn't know how to do research but look around sometimes and you'll see that projections are for parts of Florida to be underwater.

Kinda dumbass of you to say that there is no problem just because ALL of the land isn't underwater just some.

WTF is your deal? I didn't say sea levels don't rise and fall. They have since the beginning of time. I said Al Gore's alarmist predictions did not come true and he even owns a beach house.
 
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So..... if this is definitive.....

It was published 12 years ago. There is a lot of other material out there making the same sort of case. That you failed to stumble over this in more than a decade suggests real intellectual blinders or complete insularity in an ideological echo chamber.

... liberals still want to let American hating muslims into this country because they are "refugees". Cool deal. What could possibly go wrong?

Uh, no. They want to let Muslim refugees into the nation — and that act may open the possibility that some among them will turn into exponents of Islamic violence.
So what do you do?
Do you refuse to let in any of the refugees?
Or do you do your best job of vetting them, hope that those actually admitted are not violent, and know that you may have to deal with a problem or two down the road?
Now, for me, the better answer is the second one, particularly given that there hasn't been much Islamic violence in the U.S. since 9/11 — and Muslims perpetrate less than 10 percent of the terrorist acts that occur on U.S. soil. They are by no means the major problem.
But your wording would suggest that that option is absurd on its face.
I find people who think like you are playing a zero-sum game that keep us locked in our fears and paranoias. Better safe than sorry might be the motto — and this mindset has its place but, under its spell, humanity hardly ever moves forward.
 

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WTF is your deal? I didn't say sea levels don't rise and fall. They have since the beginning of time. I said Al Gore's alarmist predictions did not come true and he even owns a beach house.
You seem to think it's funny that there is alarm at the thought that parts of Florida are going underwater. You said nothing about the rise and fall of sea levels other than to laugh about "liberal tears".

Does the climate of the planet change over time? Yes. It however takes much longer. Are we helping to speed up these changes? YES!!!

And my deal is that with every post you reveal your ignorance and hate of anyone you see as different.