Paris climate accord... we're out

[Industrialsize]

"Grieving parent who's child was 'murdered' the day before".

Seems legit.

And the people of Sandy Hook tore their elementary school down and built an entirely new one for shits and giggles as opposed to the school being a constant reminder of a dark day when first graders were shot by a madman with a gun.
I just want people to know who LBS is when they attempt to engage him in rational discussion.

 

[BULLDOG00]

You seem to think it's funny that there is alarm at the thought that parts of Florida are going underwater. You said nothing about the rise and fall of sea levels other than to laugh about "liberal tears".

Does the climate of the planet change over time? Yes. It however takes much longer. Are we helping to speed up these changes? YES!!!

The sea levels are definitely rising due to liberal tears. I don't think that is in dispute.

 

[StormfrontFL]

The sea levels are definitely rising due to liberal tears. I don't think that is in dispute.

You are a jackass. Go off to your circle jerk and leave serious discussions to adults.

 

[BULLDOG00]

You are a jackass. Go off to your circle jerk and leave serious discussions to adults.

Then don't respond to my posts asshole, but whatever you do, don't cry. I don't want you to drown.

 

[StormfrontFL]

Then don't respond to my posts asshole, but whatever you do, don't cry. I don't want you to drown.

It's like those auto accidents. You drive slower just to see it. I just find it so incredible that someone can be as stupid as you. You wouldn't be Ben Carson or Betsy DeVos would you?

 

[LittleBuzzSaw]

refugees[/I] into the nation — and that act may open the possibility that some among them will turn into exponents of Islamic violence.
So what do you do?
Do you refuse to let in any of the refugees?
Or do you do your best job of vetting them, hope that those actually admitted are not violent, and know that you may have to deal with a problem or two down the road?
Now, for me, the better answer is the second one, particularly given that there hasn't been much Islamic violence in the U.S. since 9/11 — and Muslims perpetrate less than 10 percent of the terrorist acts that occur on U.S. soil. They are by no means the major problem.
But your wording would suggest that that option is absurd on its face.
I find people who think like you are playing a zero-sum game that keep us locked in our fears and paranoias. Better safe than sorry might be the motto — and this mindset has its place but, under its spell, humanity hardly ever moves forward.

So...... how do we properly vett people who have no background and we can't even verify their identities?

And yes. Block them all. I am not willing to risk one single American to an act of terrorism.

 

[Klingsor]

So..... if this is definitive..... liberals still want to let American hating muslims into this country because they are "refugees". Cool deal. What could possibly go wrong?

Did you just do a complete 180˚ on your 9/11 stance?

 

[LittleBuzzSaw]

Did you just do a complete 180˚ on your 9/11 stance?

Not necessarily. I stated what I did to offer the point. I still find it quite difficult to believe that "pockets" of fire caused a 110 story building to collapse. Not saying it isn't possible, just not likely.

 

[StormfrontFL]

So...... how do we properly vett people who have no background and we can't even verify their identities?

And yes. Block them all. I am not willing to risk one single American to an act of terrorism.

Shall we also outlaw all white supremacist groups? All their members may never commit violent acts but some have and out of fear isn't it justified to then condemn and ban them all?

 

[LittleBuzzSaw]

Shall we also outlaw all white supremacist groups? All their members may never commit violent acts but some have and out of fear isn't it justified to then condemn and ban them all?

Hell yes we should.

 

[1019487]

And you can't seem to grasp the finite temperature at which jet fuel burns and structural steel melts.

The line between reality and satire gets blurrier and blurrier every day

 

[StormfrontFL]

Hell yes we should.

Well the day those opposed to Muslim immigration also decide to do the same with these homegrown terrorist organizations then we'll talk.
The usual response from right wingers is that it's apples and oranges. Your response is a refreshing change.

 

[Klingsor]

Hell yes we should.

And face the cries of "intolerant liberal Nazis" that would follow?

 

[LittleBuzzSaw]

Well the day those opposed to Muslim immigration also decide to do the same with these homegrown terrorist organizations then we'll talk.
The usual response from right wingers is that it's apples and oranges. Your response is a refreshing change.

I also have to add that while ugly and disgusting, there is the First Amendment to deal with. Unfortunately, hate rhetoric is also protected. Threats are a different story. Preaching hate is different than performing acts of violence. Muslims are welcome to want sharia law all they wish, but killing or threatening acts of violence is a different issue. I'll support anyone's right under the First Amendment, even if I don't agree with it.

 

[StormfrontFL]

I also have to add that while ugly and disgusting, there is the First Amendment to deal with. Unfortunately, hate rhetoric is also protected. Threats are a different story. Preaching hate is different than performing acts of violence. Muslims are welcome to want sharia law all they wish, but killing or threatening acts of violence is a different issue. I'll support anyone's right under the First Amendment, even if I don't agree with it.

Not all are exposing violence. Should they then suffer because of the actions of others?

Supremacists don't have to physically assault me to be considered a threat. They can do so by intimidation. Vandalism. There are many ways.

Not sure if you knew but some members of ISIL came from Canada and are blonde with blue eyes. If one of them entered this country and then committed a terrorist act would you then judge all Canadians on the actions of one, or a few?
I mentioned the looks because prejudging someone as a potential threat because of how they look is ludicrous. If I wanted to escape detection I'd try to look as different as possible.

 

[LittleBuzzSaw]

Not all are exposing violence. Should they then suffer because of the actions of others?

Supremacists don't have to physically assault me to be considered a threat. They can do so by intimidation. Vandalism. There are many ways.

Not sure if you knew but some members of ISIL came from Canada and are blonde with blue eyes. If one of them entered this country and then committed a terrorist act would you then judge all Canadians on the actions of one, or a few?
I mentioned the looks because prejudging someone as a potential threat because of how they look is ludicrous. If I wanted to escape detection I'd try to look as different as possible.

Managing the idiots that are already here and committing/will commit violence is hard enough. Letting in more that *may* is just dumb. In addition, there is no way at all to vett any of them. You can't vett someone who comes from a place they have no tangible background.

Intimidation and vandalism are crimes. Something can certainly be done about that. But, unfortunately, hate speech is still protected under the First Amendment. There is also a difference between hate speech and threats.

 

[rbkwp]

this thread is easily the face of evil


RENEWABLES going to SATURATE the USA/WORLD and make Trump and his cohorrts look like prize idiots

Arctic Climate Warming Twice as Fast As Anywhere Else

Prof. Subhankar Banerjee, Editor of "Arctic Voices: Resistance at the Tipping Point," talks about the effect President Trump's climate policies will have on the Arctic and on the rest of the planet

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=19220

 

[deleted15807]

Why worry?

Republican Congressman Says God Will 'Take Care Of' Climate Change

 

[b.c.]

Well the day those opposed to Muslim immigration also decide to do the same with these homegrown terrorist organizations then we'll talk.
The usual response from right wingers is that it's apples and oranges. Your response is a refreshing change.

...or BS.

 

[b.c.]

Supremacists don't have to physically assault me to be considered a threat. They can do so by intimidation. Vandalism. There are many ways.

For that matter, supremacists, home bred CONSERVATIVES, and so-called "REAL Americans TOO. Like how a Democratic candidate in Iowa has withdrawn from a Senate race because of right winged DEATH THREATS, leaving the Republican candidate unopposed.

Here's a newsflash for all these ------------ condemning Muslims as a WHOLE for the actions of a few. These fkrs who killed the democratic process by making death threats against Kim Weaver are FUCKING TERRORISTS, just as much as ISIS.

Democratic opponent to Steve King in Iowa withdraws, citing death threats

It wasn't Muslims, or ISIS who did this. THEY did. But we'll hear not a WORD of condemnation from ANY of them.

Typical.