Paris climate accord... we're out

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I'm far from an expert on the scientific issues involved, and even I can see some gaping holes in this article (it's from Breitbart, so go figure).

The source is actually from a very far right group, some would say alt-right, called the World Health Organization. You won't hear about them from liberal news sources because they are considered far too extreme and right wing.
 

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The source is actually from a very far right group, some would say alt-right, called the World Health Organization. You won't hear about them from liberal news sources because they are considered far too extreme and right wing.

The source of some of the *data* is the World Health Organization. The distorted misuse of that data is the author's.

Really, I shouldn't have to explain this.
 

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The source of some of the *data* is the World Health Organization. The distorted misuse of that data is the author's.

Really, I shouldn't have to explain this.

Yeah, it becomes difficult when you know someone is trolling to decide if it's worth investing the time to explain to them why they're wrong, or just blow them off.
 
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Yeah, it becomes difficult when you know someone is trolling to decide if it's worth investing the time to explain to them why they're wrong, or just blow them off.

I love it how any disagreement with far left wing politics on this forum is considered trolling. Liberals are the most tolerant people on the planet, as long as you agree with them!
 

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I love it how any disagreement with far left wing politics on this forum is considered trolling. Liberals are the most tolerant people on the planet, as long as you agree with them!

I'm not big on using the "troll" label myself. But for what it's worth, the more you can present your arguments in a logical and coherent way, the more likely it is that people will take them--and you--seriously.

And yes, this applies to both sides. :)
 

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Yeah, it becomes difficult when you know someone is trolling to decide if it's worth investing the time to explain to them why they're wrong, or just blow them off.

For the sake of the readers not participating I myself prefer to respond. Perspective can be enlightening. That's part of why I read here too, and there may be someone out there gaining something from it. So I post ;)
 

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For the sake of the readers not participating I myself prefer to respond. Perspective can be enlightening. That's part of why I read here too, and there may be someone out there gaining something from it. So I post ;)

I take a similar position. Although in my case, it's more about having no life.
 

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I love it how any disagreement with far left wing politics on this forum is considered trolling. Liberals are the most tolerant people on the planet, as long as you agree with them!

There's a difference between expressing a difference of opinion and being disingenuous.

I have more left-leaning posters on my ignore list than I have right-leaning posters. Being a lying sack of shit is not tied to political affiliation.

I'm happy to debate in here. Misrepresenting statements, misquoting statements, misattributing statements, and engaging in outright fabrications isn't debating.
 

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Why do you assume people who disagree with you are disingenuous lying sacks of shit? Yesterday someone called me a greedy lizard based on some imaginary idea.

Cherry picking? Not everyone conversing with you is slinging mud, and by the way... Projection maybe?? I've seen you be less than tasteful in some of your posts as well.
 
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Don't feed the troll. Without replies, they die on the vine. They live for your reaction and outrage. Don't give it to him.

Why get on the merry-go-round with them? You'll just go around and around and around getting nauseous, throwing up never moving the needle while they delight in your illness. The earth will always be flat for them.
 
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Among Least Polluting says it all means nothing
maybe your EPA can give a more reasoned believable response
We no longer have a robust and functioning EPA. Until the day they are allowed to do their work, follow them "in-exile" on twitter:
https://twitter.com/RogueEPAstaff

I follow the entire alt-government.
 
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When you look at Trump's core supporters and how unaffected they are by his disturbing behavior and decision making, it becomes clear that they are incapable of being reasoned with.

It is like trying to convince a creationist that evolution is real. You can't have a logical discussion with someone so myopic.
 

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true
conveniently forgot that
however i feel there are 000s of real people out there dying to put the record straight
hope theyre still allowed to express themselves


We no longer have a robust and functioning EPA.
 
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When you look at Trump's core supporters and how unaffected they are by his disturbing behavior and decision making, it becomes clear that they are incapable of being reasoned with.

It is like trying to convince a creationist that evolution is real. You can't have a logical discussion with someone so myopic.

Al Gore wrote a book "The Assault on Reason" back in 2007 describing the current political environment as hostile to reason. Nothing has changed and clearly with Trump and Bannon in the White House reason has taken a spectacular unparalleled nosedive that makes 2007 look like a mensa gathering.

What just happened on climate isn’t an unusual case — and Trump isn’t especially unusual for a modern Republican. For today’s G.O.P. doesn’t do substance; it doesn’t assemble evidence, or do analysis to formulate or even to justify its policy positions. Facts and hard thinking aren’t wanted, and anyone who tries to bring such things into the discussion is the enemy.

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