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Ok, amdam, thats why i was asking. I agree that if you want to help the disabled by charity then you should do it, but you should not be forced to do it, have your money stolen from you and given to those who need it, don't you need it as well?

Dilznick, i was willing to let bygones be bygones with our last "debate" but if you insist on being an asshole then I have no other choice but to ignore everything you say.
 

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sopielamie said:
Welfares are just consequence of unemployement, but unemployement is not the consequence of welfares... And peoples who live in a country that doesn't know "real" unemployment can't understand that. The capitalism effect in the last 10 years in France made that there is more unemployement than ever... It's now easier to fire people from work, but no new job had been created! That's the real effect of capitalism here, and that's why French peoples don't have a good idea about it.
I said quasi-socialism. The reason why I don't like the excessive welfare state is that it is so concerned about making sure the homeless person has an optometrist and funds this by raping the small businessman or woman with 40% income taxes, making his or her life more stressful than the homeless person who can sit back, collect checks, and get health care.

To clarify, I think that if you are going to run with a mixed-market model, there should be some sort of midpoint between our insufficient welfare state and excessive ones such as France.
 

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ChimeraTX said:
An example: a K-selected population, say France, through it's natural proclivity to altruism ("Competitive Altruism..." as "Holier Than Thou") invites a r-selected population (read: unaltruistic, unindustrious, etc.) to live in their midst.
I went to France last in 2004 and the racism was so blatant. Not PC at all (see also: Sarkozy's popularity). They really hate Negroes and Arabs.
 

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ChimeraTX said:
Scandinavia is a better example than France. Furthermore, eastern-Asia is perhaps the most K-selected of any area, but is not competitively-altruistic; unnepotistic altruism might be a European condition.

If the racism truly is blatant, the situation will only become worse.
Obviously. The French are incredibly intolerant, much worse than here. Because of the strict labor regulations in France, racism can easily be used to deny someone a job without the having to explain themselves. Haha @ motherfuckers trying to pull that shit without getting sued over here.


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I am hoping that the Turkish entry into the E.U. [...]
Not gonna happen.

Speaking of, I've seen some pretty open disdain for Turks in Berlin. Like some Turkish girl was trying to figure out how to use the dryer at the laundromat. When she asked this German woman, she was like " :rolleyes: it says it all right here" and pointed at the directions, which, if she could read them, she'd obviously have figured out already.

I had to explain to her moustached ass how to use the goddamn dryer.
 

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you mock about the french riots, we mock about your loss of new orleans (loitering included).

and what is the fact: things fall apart, the center cannot hold. worldwide
 

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madame_zora said:
Okay, well here's a subject I've never really gone off about.

I hate welfare.

There, I said it. Disability is there for the disabled, Social Security is there for the elderly and some other cases, but welfare for able-bodied people makes me physically sick. I really don't care what their reasons are, they need to get off their asses and work. If I have to support myself, so should anyone else.

If you can't afford all your children, DON'T HAVE SO MANY FUCKING CHILDREN!

Now you know why I'm so staunch on AA, it beats the SHIT out of welfare. Put EVERYONE who can possible hold a job to work, and equality will work inself out in under 50 years, I'd bet my life on it. Instead, we have whole communities of institutionalised welfare and white guys are STILL bitching about black guys getting a shot at a job. How fucking retarded is that? You'd rather work hard and pay taxes so your black neighbor can sit home and collect a check? If a minority or woman who may otherwise be collecting a check is out looking for a job, GIVE HIM A FUCKING BREAK!
That way we can get rid of this hideous system that is going to cause a collapse of our countries' finances.

Importing people to put on welfare? Absurd. I'd give them three months to learn the language and get a job or they get a plane ride courtesy of the US government back to the city they came from. I bet if they knew that was coming, they'd try just a little harder. France might try that as well.

I hate welfare almost as much as I hate "accidental children" as an excuse for it. I should NOT be financially responsible for someone else's moral decisions. If someone thinks sex is a sin, but does it anyway, but then decided abortion is a sin so they just have a shitload of kids they don't want and can't afford, I feel no compassion toward that situation nor do I feel it is my responisibility to pay taxes to support their morals. They are not being asked to support mine.

Try having the amount of children you can afford to raise and work to support your own decisions. As long as we make it easy for the lazy to continue pressing the working for money, it will keep happening. Grr.



Very well said.
 

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madame_zora said:
You'd rather work hard and pay taxes so your black neighbor can sit home and collect a check? If a minority or woman who may otherwise be collecting a check is out looking for a job, GIVE HIM A FUCKING BREAK!
That's hardly an argument for affirmative action. AA does not create jobs.
 

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Dr. Dilznick said:
That's hardly an argument for affirmative action. AA does not create jobs.

Dilznick, I know you were around for that last round of arguments on AA so you should bloody well know that I know exactly what AA is and how it works. Why do you keep bringing things up that have nothing to do with the current conversation? AA also won't make your car payment, so I guess that's another thing against it, right?

AA doesn't create jobs, we all know this. What it DOES do is allow minorities who are actually looking for jobs a fairer chance of actually getting them. Lack of jobs in general is a separate issue, to me. While we have lost a lot of mid-level manufacturing jobs overseas during the bush admin., historically this has not been one of the objections to AA.

I don't mind debating a point with you, but more often that not, I feel you are only inciting argument with no real point to make.
 

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madame_zora said:
I don't mind debating a point with you, but more often that not, I feel you are only inciting argument with no real point to make.
If AA has nothing to do with the current conversation (I agree), then why bring it up? This is not a gimmick. I just wanted you to explain yourself, that is all.


GottaBigOne said:
Now you know why I gave up myself madam.
You're not built for this Randroid boy. You estrogen cheerleading ass motherfucker. Following "madam" from thread to thread. You should consider my fan club however. We have a winter special that includes Iron-ons, a bumper sticker and the wife beater's bible autographed by yours ever so truly.
 

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Okay Dilznick, that's enough. AA was being referenced, but YOU said my point was irrelevant because it doesn't create jobs. I never said it did!

GBO and I have been following one another around the board for a long time, one not more than the other. Just because you want to limit his perspecitves to "Randroid" doesn't make it true, but have at it if you must.
 

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madame_zora said:
Okay Dilznick, that's enough. AA was being referenced, but YOU said my point was irrelevant because it doesn't create jobs. I never said it did!
"Now you know why I'm so staunch on AA, it beats the SHIT out of welfare. Put EVERYONE who can possible hold a job to work, and equality will work inself out in under 50 years."


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GBO and I have been following one another around the board for a long time, one not more than the other. Just because you want to limit his perspecitves to "Randroid" doesn't make it true, but have at it if you must.
"Hey all. As some of you know my outlook on life and morility, and everything has changed since I became of Objectivism, which is most commonly known as the Philosophy of Ayn Rand. The more I discover about it the more I realize how utterly self evident everything about is." - GottaBigOne
 

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I dunno if you're agreeing with Rand there chimera, but if you value her thoughts you should really read up on her views of racism and biological determinism.

Also, for clarification, that repost by dilznick of mine should read "became aware of Objectivism". That was one of my many typos. I don't know what kind of satisfaction he gets out of painting me as a Randroid, but if his fragile little ego needs a boost by bringing someone else down then that only reveals something about him, not me.
 

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GottaBigOne said:
Dilznick [...] I have no other choice but to ignore everything you say.

GottaBigOne said:
Also, for clarification, that repost by dilznick of mine should read "became aware of Objectivism". That was one of my many typos. I don't know what kind of satisfaction he gets out of painting me as a Randroid, but if his fragile little ego needs a boost by bringing someone else down then that only reveals something about him, not me.
The Randroid mind at work.

Oh, and Chimera, I'm sure he's bedded white womens. So whose side is he really on? ;-)
 

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ChimeraTX said:
LOL, the A.R.I. is priceless. ;)
From Aynrand.org:

Multiculturalism is a growing force in America’s universities and public life. In brief, multiculturalism is the view that all cultures, from that of a spirits-worshiping tribe to that of an advanced industrial civilization, are equal in value.

Since cultures are obviously not equal in value—not if man’s life is your standard of value—this egalitarian doctrine can have only one purpose: to raze the mountaintops. Multiculturalism seeks to obliterate the value of a free, industrialized civilization (which today exists in the West and elsewhere), by declaring that such a civilization is no better than primitive tribalism. More deeply, it seeks to incapacitate a mind’s ability to distinguish good from evil, to distinguish that which is life promoting from that which is life negating.

We are opposed to this destructive doctrine. We hold that moral judgment is essential to life. The ideas and values that animate a particular culture can and should be judged objectively. A culture that values freedom, progress, reason and science, for instance, is good; one that values oppression, stagnation, mysticism, and ignorance is not.



Op-Eds

- Multiculturalism's War on Education

- The Racism of "Diversity"

- On Columbus Day, Celebrate Western Civilization, Not Multiculturalism

- The UN Conference of Racists

Etc.


;-)
 

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GottaBigOne said:
I don't know what kind of satisfaction he gets out of painting me as a Randroid [...]
It seems I'm not the only one who thinks so, well, judging by the private messages I've been getting. ;-)
 

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madame_zora said:
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I don't mind debating a point with you, but more often that not, I feel you are only inciting argument with no real point to make.
Dig it ,there, Dr Dilznick, you really tend to go out of your way to deprocate, belittle, and plain get fanatical over just about anything and/or everything.

I don't know how much more can be said about that, except that when I come here to post, I rarely find the need for reading posts from someone who is deliberately spiteful, belligerent, and doesn't get through a post without inciting some sort of shock value.