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It's perfectly obvious..if you've never seen psycho you should be able to get it from the trailer..
maybe not though...just click the back link to see the original post.
She is implying that someone here is gay based on his membership groups and therefore..

"..That would explain the "why" of so much female centric hostility.."
 
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Men wear body suits in Olympic running events.
And trust me..there is a LOT flopping genitals.
It's more obvious when the countries team uniform colours are
of lighter shades.
Where's the indignation about the flying genitals there?


Please spare me your miserable bitching like you poured out in the other removed thread.

*ignore*

Olympic running events, yes. Pro tennis tour no.

Myself? I have no problem with sports men and women in skin-tight anything, but I'm not the one putting up multi-million dollar purses. Those who do are employers and have the right to set a dress code.

Please stop projecting your bitchiness on me.
 
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No bodysuits? No burkas? That's fair. Every place I've worked has had a dress code.

SINCE "YOU" HAVE ALWAYS FELT ACCOMMODATING TOWARD DRESS CODES, WE ALL SHOULD, NO MATTER WHAT.

[NARCISSISM ALERT]

Grown-ups deal with it.

THIS STATEMENT ALWAYS COMES WITH AN

ASSHOLE ALERT!

Competing for a multi-million dollar purse? Follow their dress code.

SO SAYS THE APPARENT STANDARD BEARER FOR THE STATUS QUO.

Would anyone object to the men wearing bodysuits which showed a visible penis line and bouncing genitalia?

PROBABLY ONLY UPTIGHT MEN WOULD.

See my ALLCAPS responses in body of quoted crap.
 

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She is implying that someone here is gay based on his membership groups and therefore..

"..That would explain the "why" of so much female centric hostility.."

Yeah, I understood that part of it w/o any need for assistance.

I'm just don't understand the parallels you're trying to draw to Norman Bates.
 

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Get your jollies via misogynistic trolling do you?

Misogynist? Not at all. I'm a liberal humanist. Have been all my life. My beautiful parents raised me that way. Back in the early 80s when I was in college I was part of a student group which lobbied two state legislatures to stop them from withdrawing their ratification of ERA. I'm pro-choice, pro-equal rights for women, pro-civil rights, pro-affirmative action for women and minorities, pro-labor, pro-environmental and business regulation, pro-national health, pro-education, pro-LGBT(etc) and pro-open borders. I think the Second Amendment should be repealed and our society de-gunned. I've given a lot of money to Planned Parenthood, female candidates (liberals of course) and other women's causes.

But as a liberal white male I've had to endure feminist women and men shrieking at me for the last forty years when we disagree. I take it in stride because I know we're all pulling the same direction.

I will add you to my list of shriekers. :p
 
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Misogynist? Not at all. I'm a liberal humanist. Have been all my life. My beautiful parents raised me that way. Back in the early 80s when I was in college I was part of a student group which lobbied two state legislatures to stop them from withdrawing their ratification of ERA. I'm pro-choice, pro-equal rights for women, pro-civil rights, pro-affirmative action for women and minorities, pro-labor, pro-environmental and business regulation, pro-national health, pro-education, pro-LGBT(etc) and pro-open borders. I think the Second Amendment should be repealed and our society de-gunned. I've given a lot of money to Planned Parenthood, female candidates (liberals of course) and other women's causes.

But as a liberal white male I've had to endure feminist women and men shrieking at me for the last forty years when we disagree. I take it in stride because I know we're all pulling the same direction.

I will add you to my list of shriekers. :p

And your best friend is black.
 
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Misogynist? Not at all. I'm a liberal humanist. Have been all my life. My beautiful parents raised me that way. Back in the early 80s when I was in college I was part of a student group which lobbied two state legislatures to stop them from withdrawing their ratification of ERA. I'm pro-choice, pro-equal rights for women, pro-civil rights, pro-affirmative action for women and minorities, pro-labor, pro-environmental and business regulation, pro-national health, pro-education, pro-LGBT(etc) and pro-open borders. I think the Second Amendment should be repealed and our society de-gunned. I've given a lot of money to Planned Parenthood, female candidates (liberals of course) and other women's causes.

But as a liberal white male I've had to endure feminist women and men shrieking at me for the last forty years when we disagree. I take it in stride because I know we're all pulling the same direction.

I will add you to my list of shriekers. :p

I love this notion that voting or identifying as a liberal inherently prevents someone from having a contempt for women.

Your posting history in this particular subforum is very clear and is one where you wander into threads bearing an air of complete condescension and distate for not only the women participating in the discussion but for women in general. You make broad, prejudiced generalizations trying to explain to everyone the truth of the nature of woman as you see it. You use loaded terms with clear intent to antagonize the women with whom you're having "discussions".

I can fully accept that you do not believe government should be outlawing abortion or that businesses should be allowed to discriminate on the basis of gender, your post history supports that, but that doesn't magically absolve you of your blatantly sexist attitudes and remarks which are also plainly visible in your history as well.
 
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I love this notion that voting or identifying as a liberal inherently prevents someone from having a contempt for women.

Your posting history in this particular subforum is very clear and is one where you wander into threads bearing an air of complete condescension and distate for not only the women participating in the discussion but for women in general. You make broad, prejudiced generalizations trying to explain to everyone the truth of the nature of woman as you see it. You use loaded terms with clear intent to antagonize the women with whom you're having "discussions".

I can fully accept that you do not believe government should be outlawing abortion or that businesses should be allowed to discriminate on the basis of gender, your post history supports that, but that doesn't magically absolve you of your blatantly sexist attitudes and remarks which are also plainly visible in your history as well.
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yet patriarchal societies are the rule, not the exception, throughout all cultures since the dawn of humanity almost without exception no matter their race, religion, socioeconomic status and so on.

false. Anthropological ethnologies and Studies have shown time and time again that original societies were egalitarian and matrilineal. It is the rise of pastoral societies where property becomes a New Concept, and inheritance becomes becomes patrilineal where patriarchies begin to take over. At this point Humanity has lived in groups for thousands of years. You're wrong.
 

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Women don't support other women in sports..
Have you ever bought a ticket..? or even turned on the tv..?
I only buy tickets to baseball, so far. Major and minor leagues. I like baseball live. I have never been aware of a local women's league. I do watch softball on television. I also watch tennis, figure skating (but not ice dancing) gymnastics, CrossFit, and by the time Women's basketball was televised, I had lost interest in basketball years prior. I do watch women's athletics on television, yes. I have also put in some work trying to get NCAA to market the women's events more equally. Like... Actual activism, offline. Try again.
but what matters is that one finds the inner strength, resolve and determination to rise above it despite it all.

This is the same boring claptrap the oppressors or those unaffected by them always trot out. Do you know what Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had to say about this? Or are you guilty of telling others to expand their horizons while not only not doing so yourself, but also disseminating lies to support a false narrative, such as the one I handily dispatched earlier?
 
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false. Anthropological ethnologies and Studies have shown time and time again that original societies were egalitarian and matrilineal. It is the rise of pastoral societies where property becomes a New Concept, and inheritance becomes becomes patrilineal where patriarchies begin to take over. At this point Humanity has lived in groups for thousands of years. You're wrong.

I didn't get into it with him cuz he rolled in like such a jackass, but there's so very much wrong with his diatribe.

In particular I love the argument that some men (like Atilla) make that white men deserve so much praise and gratitude for their accomplishments. It's like... have they never in life been in a situation where someone insists on lifting / carrying something heavy by themselves, refusing any offers of help? Literally no one witnessing these situations stands back and says "Now there's a genius!"

White men abused their power to restrict access to the types of institutions (like education, freedom, government, etc) that are necessary to contribute to society. Did they subsequently achieve a lot of things? Yes, absolutely. But just like the idiot stumbling along with the heavy-ass sofa, history clearly suggests they could have accomplished more things more efficiently if they were not constraining participation. Talent is not limited to certain genitalia or shades of skin. I've mentioned it before, but the scientific contributions of Hedy Lamarr have a direct contribution to the career I have today (and even in her case, you had white men stifling her and shelving her contributions for decades)

So yes, white men have achieved a lot, but celebrating the way it played out is a celebration of gross inefficiency and ineptitude. It's celebrating a society that had one foot on the brakes of progress at the same time that the other foot was on the accelerator. It was imbecilic (just like the smartass loudmouths who think they're scoring massive debate points by bringing it up).
 

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..Yeah, I understood that part of it w/o any need for assistance.
I'm just don't understand the parallels you're trying to draw to Norman Bates.

Hmm..Ok...
In real life..Anthony Perkins was gay...In the Psycho movie he's repressed who can't act on his homosexual
feelings but can slash/kill women since he can't love them. And then being so close to his mother
he stores her dead body around in the basement...etc..

"Yet Perkins’ puzzling (at least to his friends) marriage to Berenson in 1973 seemed more than just a showbiz sham....
But Winecoff does show that Perkins — in trying to hoodwink Hollywood by marrying — may have actually brought himself real happiness. ”It was a real sense of marriage between them,” says writer Dominick Dunne. ”Whatever they had, it was wonderful. I mean, it was a real family.”

Split Image: The Life of Anthony Perkins
Tab Hunter, Anthony Perkins Forbidden Love Drama in the Works From J.J. Abrams, Zachary Quinto (Exclusive)
 
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Hmm..Ok...
In real life..Anthony Perkins was gay...In the Psycho movie he's repressed who can't act on his homosexual
feelings but can slash/kill women since he can't love them. And then being so close to his mother
he stores her dead body around in the basement...etc..

"Yet Perkins’ puzzling (at least to his friends) marriage to Berenson in 1973 seemed more than just a showbiz sham....
But Winecoff does show that Perkins — in trying to hoodwink Hollywood by marrying — may have actually brought himself real happiness. ”It was a real sense of marriage between them,” says writer Dominick Dunne. ”Whatever they had, it was wonderful. I mean, it was a real family.”

Split Image: The Life of Anthony Perkins
Tab Hunter, Anthony Perkins Forbidden Love Drama in the Works From J.J. Abrams, Zachary Quinto (Exclusive)
Isn't that a ridiculous stretch? Norman Bates isn't gay. In fact, he kills women because he is attracted to women, and his mother taught him that all women besides her are whores. She also kept him from having any friends, anyone in the world who wasn't her, and it is implied that the mother-son relationship was incestuous. Moreover, Norman kills her (and her man) because she takes up with a man, thereby ruining the paradigm that the only people in the world who are good, and who matter are Norman and she. The motivations for the other murders, if I recall the movies correctly, are either that the victim threatens Norman's delusion that his mother is alive, or the version of his mother in his mind tells him the victim is a whore who might lure him into the sin of intercourse.

So, in light of that, what about anyone's posting except yours has drawn any correlation to gay male=anti-female? Even @SilverTrain pointing out his list of LPSG groups doesn't imply that unless you want it to. Me? I took it to be a demonstration that the groups he belongs to are not relevant or welcoming to women, and since he has so many, and there are groups relevant and welcoming to women, it might make one wonder if he generally has any interest in or relevance to women.

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