starinvestor writes:
Funny, people back here laying around, bloated, shoveling food into their mouths...and judging interrogation measures halfway around the world when they have NO GOD DAMN IDEA what was going on with those prisoners and the other reprehensible conditions surrounding these incidences.
If Obama, Pelosi, Reid, James Carver and the rest of the libs want to change torture guidelines - JUST CHANGE THEM. Stop digging up skeletons and stirring up the pot. Start looking forward and move on from Bush for chrissakes.
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Star, if people "back here" are "laying around, bloated, shoveling food into their mouths...and judging interrogation measures halfway around the world" it's because we've not even been allowed to honestly debate this issue. Bush has NEVER been upfront about torture and "enhanced interrogation techniques" and what takes place at Guantanamo and Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's all fucking CLASSIFIED!
NOW, finally, we get a chance to open the whole Bush chapter up and debate the goddamn secret prisons WHICH WERE OPERATING IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S NAME.
Shouldn't the american people have a little input into who, what, where and why these decisions were made, why we scrapped the Geneva Convention? If waterboarding a suspect 83 times in a month is worth breaking international law?
The U.S. Supreme Court has been consistently ruling against Bush administration overreaches in the past few years.
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The U.S. Supreme Court case, "Hamdan v. Rumsfeld", 2006, in a 5-3 decision (chief justice John Roberts recused himself), held that:
* "Enemy combatants" are protected by the Geneva Conventions.
* The AUMF does not grant Bush the authority to create new tribunals without congressional mandate.
* Conspiracy is not a war crime under the Uniform Code of Military Justice
Impact of the ruling: The ruling's most substantial point is that all non-citizen prisoners are protected by the Geneva Conventions. This essentially renders illegal the Bush administration's program of indefinite detention, mild torture, and extraordinary rendition, calling on the administration to treat all detainees in a manner consistent with international human rights standards.
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I'm GLAD we have a new administration in place that is declassifying previously classified information.
Conservatives just love saying that this declassification is making us "unsafe", but how the hell can the american people begin an open honest debate WHEN WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE?
There's a good reason conservatives don't want these practices declassified. BECAUSE THEY'RE ILLEGAL. The U.S. Supreme Court would corroborate this.
I don't want Pelosi and Reid to "just change" policy. I want that policy opened up and discussed by the american people with as much information as we can get: on television, in newspaper editorials, in our living rooms.
