Penis Enlargement Discussion related to the $10,000 10-inch challenge

[hzs3fg]

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I haven't seen anyone convincingly show more than about 1.5 inches of length gain and maybe an inch of girth gain, but gains nonetheless.

I honestly doubt that even those 1.5" gains are totally legit.

 

[TowerATL]

There are two very active subreddits where men are documenting legitimate gains.

I haven't seen anyone convincingly show more than about 1.5 inches of length gain and maybe an inch of girth gain, but gains nonetheless.

I'm not trying to grow length, but I incidentally got a bit of length from better erection quality while carefully doing exercises. And I've definitely gained girth, to the point I cannot dismiss it as EQ. About a half an inch of girth in 1.5 years, and it stays even if I take weeks off of PE exercises. And more importantly, my penis is more acclimated to a penis pump now, and I can more quickly gain temporary girth for a particular session with my wife, and have it feel more realistic and less like a squishy edema-filled mess. That came with months of consistent pumping. So, even if there wasn't any actual tissue growth, I'd be happy to continue doing light enlargement exercises because it's made my penis healthier and given me a new, fat tool to use on the wife.

What exercises and equipment are you using for your length/girth gains? Appreciate the insight!

 

[kahlua123]

What exercises and equipment are you using for your length/girth gains? Appreciate the insight!

We should move this discussion to a different thread. But to answer just once:

I started out with just pumping. But now, my routine is pretty much this: Hard clamping for three sets of 5-10 minutes (depending on soreness) every other day; interval pumping, with a heating pad on the cylinder, at least once every other day for about 20 minutes, and usually pumping a bit longer on days when I expect to be having sex and have not clamped, because I need a bit more than 20 minutes to get to the size my wife likes sometimes; random stretching and bundled stretching, by hand, maybe 3-5x a week for 10 minutes or so at a time; semi-erect bends before clamping or pumping, if there is time.

If it's ok to mention here: I like the subreddit gettingbigger for tips. Plenty of guides and good advice there. Also plenty of bad advice...

 

[VIIby5]

There are studies reporting erect length gain. Here's one in men with Peyronie's disease: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1756287219838139

The gains are all modest (1-2 cm), but there is a wealth of anecdotal data that document length gains of up to 1-1.25 inches. Our own @sdp himself gained over an inch of erect length. I'm not saying 2+ inch gains are possible (likely not), but gains of an inch or so are possible. Theoretically some Mandingo-sized dude COULD heavily-stretch himself to the 10k. Even that's still a relatively unlikely scenario though.

I busted my ass doing PE for years. Jelqing, stretchs, Ulis, Fowler's, extending, pumping, etc. Traction was the only thing that helped. Gained just under .5" and stalled. I could not gain any more . Hanging is about the only thing I haven't tried.

 

[hzs3fg]

I busted my ass doing PE for years. Jelqing, stretchs, Ulis, Fowler's, extending, pumping, etc. Traction was the only thing that helped. Gained just under .5" and stalled. I could not gain any more . Hanging is about the only thing I haven't tried.

And, that "just under .5"" is on top of what looks like an already good-sized penis.

It's reasonable to believe that the limits of growth are percentage based.

 

[VIIby5]

And, that "just under .5"" is on top of what looks like an already good-sized penis.

It's reasonable to believe that the limits of growth are percentage based.

I'm sure that's a factor although in a PE forum I was a member of it was not uncommon for 5" and 6" guys reporting easy 1" gains in the first couple of months. Now how much of those "gains" were B.S., exaggerations, inaccurate measurements or perhaps just improved erection quality is unknown. I wasnt buying it until I actually gained and seen for myself that it was possible. Unfortunately my gains were no where as near good as what most report. My fist gain was only .25". Then about a year and a half later I eeked out a little more after several de-conditioning breaks

I think the biggest limiting factor is genetic/ penis anatomy. Specifically the tunica is what limits growth the most IMO. Mine seems to be made of titanium so gains do not come easy for me.

 

[Clod]

So don’t get me wrong. It might possibly be working, but proof is not as widely available as claimed. Which was basically my point. Besides this, anecdotal stories don’t count as proof. I know there are people out there claiming increasements. I have never looked into those claims. If @sdp or any other person has documented this, that could count as proof.

Here's a link to the log posted by @sdp : sdp's journal

As you can see, he gained slightly over an inch of erect length. That being said, I do agree with the previous post that the odds that some unicorn with a NBP 9" would also have the willpower, desire, and dedication to gain a full inch or so of length are astronomically small.

 

[like2Feelabig1]

Here's a link to the log posted by @sdp : sdp's journal

As you can see, he gained slightly over an inch of erect length. That being said, I do agree with the previous post that the odds that some unicorn with a NBP 9" would also have the willpower, desire, and dedication to gain a full inch or so of length are astronomically small.

I know that I will be taken to task over this because sap is regarded here as one of the truest and biggest guys on the site, and a paragon of size claim virtue, but I challenge your claim.
Look at page 3 of his journal for instance, in the soft tape measurement he has at the very least an inch of the tape stashed under his thumb, in the wooden ruler pic not only is it another incorrect way of measuring but I challenge any sensible person to look at the 'BPEL' pic and agree that it looks anywhere near the claimed 9+ inches.
Not only would that make his hands extraordinarily huge but that size claim makes it completely disproportionate to his arms and body. If he can't be trusted to post true measurements how can we trust his gain claims?

 

[JGUIDO]

Regardless if whether PE works based on from the pics I've seen of gainers, their BPEL seems to increased more than their NBPEL probably due to skin being pulled out too causing a turkey neck.

 

[hzs3fg]

Regardless if whether PE works based on from the pics I've seen of gainers, their BPEL seems to increased more than their NBPEL probably due to skin being pulled out too causing a turkey neck.

I suspect there may also be some stretching of the suspensory ligament.

Either way, I see nothing to convince me that substantial length gains are possible. Certainly not the 1" to 3" that some dreamers report.

 

[dickapick]

Here's a link to the log posted by @sdp : sdp's journal

As you can see, he gained slightly over an inch of erect length. That being said, I do agree with the previous post that the odds that some unicorn with a NBP 9" would also have the willpower, desire, and dedication to gain a full inch or so of length are astronomically small.

I scanned through that thread. It looks like he indeed gained length, but after getting to 9 3/8 bpel there is nothing more there. I couldn’t find the other thread.

First off, I believe that the first x percent can be due to better erection quality. When I get up, make myself erect and slam a ruler on top, I am certain to measure less than my raging boner when for example having sex. So yeah, you gain measured length, but that additional length was already ‘hidden’ in there. That is in my opinion also the reason for the reported early gains.

 

[Clod]

Regardless if whether PE works based on from the pics I've seen of gainers, their BPEL seems to increased more than their NBPEL probably due to skin being pulled out too causing a turkey neck.

While that definitely seems to be true, @sdp himself clearly gained an inch of NBP length.

I suspect there may also be some stretching of the suspensory ligament.

Either way, I see nothing to convince me that substantial length gains are possible. Certainly not the 1" to 3" that some dreamers report.

3"? Never 1"? Not out of the question

I scanned through that thread. It looks like he indeed gained length, but after getting to 9 3/8 bpel there is nothing more there. I couldn’t find the other thread.

First off, I believe that the first x percent can be due to better erection quality. When I get up, make myself erect and slam a ruler on top, I am certain to measure less than my raging boner when for example having sex. So yeah, you gain measured length, but that additional length was already ‘hidden’ in there. That is in my opinion also the reason for the reported early gains.

Ok, but there's absolutely 0 reason to think his EQ or hardness when measuring improved. Also, check out his gallery and he's clearly even longer BP now.

 

[Clod]

Paging @sdp ...

Would you mind sharing your thoughts?

 

[MDM8]

"Building muscle requires consistent effort and time..."

And genes.

I agree that having a big penis is very much dependent on good genes!!
But the penis is not a “muscle” that can be worked out and increased in size like a bicep. Some stretching and pumping can generate some gains but it is not the same as “bodybuilding”. If it was just a matter of working out the muscle then you’d have tons of guys waking around with 10” and likely way more, just like you see absolutely huge body builders with incredibly huge size!!

 

[Clod]

I agree that having a big penis is very much dependent on good genes!!
But the penis is not a “muscle” that can be worked out and increased in size like a bicep. Some stretching and pumping can generate some gains but it is not the same as “bodybuilding”. If it was just a matter of working out the muscle then you’d have tons of guys waking around with 10” and likely way more, just like you see absolutely huge body builders with incredibly huge size!!

To be fair, it's not actually like that with bodybuilding. This is coming from a former personal trainer, but the point to which people stall out with muscle building is far quicker than you'd think. Almost nobody looks like a fitness model, even with all the training in the world. Only the elite of the elite genetically can get there, and even then, it often requires drugs. Forget ever naturally looking like a "bodybuilder" without copious amounts of drugs AND good genetics. There's a very rapid stage of "newbie gains" for everyone before they taper off and you hit the point of diminishing returns. The extent to which those newbie gains continue is partially training/diet and also largely genetic.

PE isn't necessarily too different. There's definitely a "newbie gains" phase whee 80-90% of all fans occur. While the penis isn't a muscle, genetically-mediated things like strength of suspensory ligament and angle of erection (supposedly a high angle of erection means more potential gains) play a role in potential fo gains.

 

[Clod]

Regardless if whether PE works based on from the pics I've seen of gainers, their BPEL seems to increased more than their NBPEL probably due to skin being pulled out too causing a turkey neck.

I think this is more pulling out the "pubic base" than "turkey neck". "Turkey neck" is more describing the "webbing" underneath the scrotum. It's visually unappealing, but doesn't necessarily impact NBP length.

Out of curiosity, @JGUIDO have you tried any PE yourself?

 

[MDM8]

To be fair, it's not actually like that with bodybuilding. This is coming from a former personal trainer, but the point to which people stall out with muscle building is far quicker than you'd think. Almost nobody looks like a fitness model, even with all the training in the world. Only the elite of the elite genetically can get there, and even then, it often requires drugs. Forget ever naturally looking like a "bodybuilder" without copious amounts of drugs AND good genetics. There's a very rapid stage of "newbie gains" for everyone before they taper off and you hit the point of diminishing returns. The extent to which those newbie gains continue is partially training/diet and also largely genetic.

PE isn't necessarily too different. There's definitely a "newbie gains" phase whee 80-90% of all fans occur. While the penis isn't a muscle, genetically-mediated things like strength of suspensory ligament and angle of erection (supposedly a high angle of erection means more potential gains) play a role in potential fo gains.

Totally agree with everyone that lifts weights not looking like a body builder, and I lifted pretty heavily in my college days and did some weight class power lifting, and I definitely know all about “plateaus” in terms of muscle gain and how most people that end with a bodybuilder look have good genes, work a ton at it, and also often use drugs to enhance and get to that size.
But what I meant is that building muscle is a matter of tearing down muscle tissue and then it rebuilds stronger / larger.
The penis isn’t the same tissue as muscle so it doesn’t work exactly the same. Although I do know that some modest gains from PE is possible and was for me. And probably for those with the right genes larger gain is possible.

 

[sdp]

Paging @sdp ...

Would you mind sharing your thoughts?

About EQ gains, I started with very good EQ, so I don't think my gains came from the improvement of a previously sub-par EQ. However, I've found that as I gained I needed to make my EQ even better by further strengthening my pevic floor muscles. It felt as if in order to fully realize each gain (i.e. translate the BPFSL gain to BPEL) I needed to be able to achieve 110% erections, which would then naturally become the new 100% until the next BPFSL gain.

I believe that's where the limit to gains lies, it isn't strictly a matter of blood volume but of PF strength, there's a point where your muscles won't be able to "support" the added volume anymore (notably the BC muscle that supports the corpus spongiosum and glans), you won't be able to get to that 110%, and you'll be left with what feels like 90% EQ and maybe visually a slightly bigger penis but no measurable BPEL gains. At this point it's useless to try and make more BPFSL gains, you'd just end up with even worse EQ and possibly PF dysfunction.

I think this is more pulling out the "pubic base" than "turkey neck".

Yes the scrotum and the fascia surrounding the suspensory ligament (fat pad) are going to stick out more. Their attachment point on the shaft doesn't change but that point does get pulled out, although the bulk of the gains still happens on the actual dick by expansion of the tunica, so there are NBP gains but they won't match the BP gains.

 

[dickapick]

@sdp Can you please share the link of the other thread where you continued the journal? I can’t seem to find it

 

[Grey Hawk]

I find it hard to believe that so many actually think that you can enlarge your penis permanently without having surgery