Penn State - where did the thread go?

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I've found that a good way to remain vested in this site is to not get too invested in this site.

I agree.

That being said, I do profess to being a bit confused as to why a thread about the scandal (and, generally, about how terrible a crime it is that was allegedly committed) is deleted under a pedophilia regulation in the TOS. I'm not upset with the mods or anything, just a bit confused. My understanding of the spirit of that regulation in the TOS was that it was meant to prevent the posting of anything that promotes or glorifies the sexual abuse of children - total common sense and common decency. What I saw of the thread in question (and I'll admit to not reading every sentence of it) did not promote sexual abuse, however - quite the opposite, in fact - hence why I posted to it.

Now that I've re-read the TOS regulation in question (bearing in mind I've been at this site for a long time now, that I don't remember the TOS chapter-and-verse, and that it's changed since I joined) I see that any reference whatsoever to sex involving minors, animals, incest, or fecal matter is entirely prohibited.

Again, I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. In fact, I get it. Running this site surely involves not only ethical responsibility but liability as well. And I'll make sure to keep updated on the TOS to the best of my ability, and adhere to it to the best of my ability (which I haven't found difficult as it's pretty much just common sense).

I was just a bit surprised, that's all.
 
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Have not read all the posts but find it strange you can't talk about something on big dick web site that they spew at top volume at every dinner table in America for days at a time.
Your dinner table is very different than mine.

AMEN! This is a hardcore porn site. The czars make a de facto case of it by asking us to become involved in the political fights that threaten to shut down these types of sites.
Who are these "czars"? Name names. As for a hardcore porn site? THIS SITE? :lol:

Nothing like going back and reading the Terms of Service for this website, if you disagree can always delete your account.
 

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Nothing like going back and reading the Terms of Service for this website, if you disagree can always delete your account.[/QUOTE]O


I agree. People who get all upset about the contents of a thread also have the ability to not open and read the thread. When they choose to read it, post to it, and then whine to the enforcers they infringe on the rights of other members. I've participated in the forum for several years and threads are deleted primarily by the amount of bitching from the hall monitors and tattle tails. Other threads that violate the rules will be left alone.
The TOS should be whittled down to a paragraph that says the owners of the site can and will do whatever they wish. period. If I owned it that is what I would do.
 

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I was frankly surprised it lasted as long as it did.

That having been said, rape is a crime of violence more than anything sexual, but I do understand that such parsing doesn't always work when the rules are that black and white. The ToS regarding minors is completely explicit.

Then u must be frankly astonished that this thread:

The Sandusky Indictment

is stil chugging along after more than a week. It mirrors the Penn State thread , AND it contains a link to the document with all the grisly detals of an adult having sex with minors.

The TOS regarding minors might be completely explicit, but their enforcement is completely political.
 

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Thad - I've wondered the same thing myself and I thought of raising the issue but since I hate the tattle tails and cry babies I decided against being one myself.
 

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Thad - I've wondered the same thing myself and I thought of raising the issue but since I hate the tattle tails and cry babies I decided against being one myself.

Snitches get stitches and wind up in ditches.


Seriously, I was rather surprised by the Penn State Thread's removal, myself. And rather perturbed. I do understand the TOS on the site, and anything dealing with minors on a sexually oriented site is rather sticky, for obvious reasons.

However, the way the thread was set up wasn't as though it was glorifiying the situation, exactly the opposite. To my understanding, the definition of pornography includes something that appeals to the prurient interst of people, meaning something that was sexually charged, designed to get people aroused. IMO there was nothing in that thread that could do that.

It's doubly disturbing, especially with the stigma surrounding Child Sexual Abuse, and the way that if you are a male victim of sexual abuse, you get treated doubly bad, especially if the perpetrator was another male. I think it's an issue that needs to be talked about more openly, if only to keep things like this from happening more often.

Then, with all the banners and overlays about "Stop Internet Censorship" I think the powers that be on this site really dropped the ball. IMO, it's very censoring to take the thread down just because someone, or several someones, didn't like it. Esepecially with how many threads there are about "Seeing your father's Penis" or "Seeing Your Father Erect" or "Did you ever catch your parents having sex"
 

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What happens is suddenly all the time you used to spend reading threads gets spent responding to reported posts, reported PMs, and pseudo-crises in the chat room. You spend extra time checking IP addresses for shenanigans, and banning spammers and minors. You skim your favorite fora, no longer for provocative topics, but instead for legal threats to the site. When all of these issues converge in the mod-only forum, you try to come to a consensus with the rest of the team. A week goes by and you realize you've been putting off responding to your personal PMs for several days, and have read only three or four threads purely for pleasure all week. Then you shrug, and get back to your real life, happy to have been able to give something back in the way of service to a site that has given something valuable to you.

Maybe you'll answer that thoughtful PM from your old friend tomorrow. Probably not. He knows you have two jobs, a small business, a mid-term, a term paper, a husband, a boyfriend, a cat, a dog, tickets to Kanye and Jay-Z, a partridge in a pear tree and a sprained ankle. He understands.

We treat everything we find or are shown equally. Threads about pedophilia are not permitted.

If you see something, say something. We don't have time to see it all ourselves. We're fucking busy.
My response to AlteredEgo is that it sound like you have to much on your plate to moderate a site like this..With your comments i read above..Maybe you should consider having me as a moderator..I am home about 80% of the time..I am on disability and spend a lot of time on my computer with a lot of my outings being doctor appointment..I have been a member since 2006. I don't have a gold card because i can't afford it on my budget...Then you would have more time for more personal use when you are on this site. This is meant as a suggestion..I got a good head on my shoulders and consider myself intelligent..