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I can't quite help thinking this is not the best explanation of people's confidence or lack thereof.
Anyone remember that movie where Erick Stoltz plays a kid with a horribly genetically disfigured face (his mother was played by Cher)? I forget the name of the movie but anyway...the kid, despite the fact he has this hugely freakin' ugly-as-hell face is supremely confident and outgoing.
[Edit: ok...just found the movie - it's Mask (1985)
Look at the tagline for the movie: They told 16-year-old Rocky Dennis he could never be like everyone else. So he was determined to be better.]
Yes, he got picked on but something about him didn't let it get to him. To the point you could see he had friends despite his 'true ugliness'. By all rights by your theory Lucas this kid should've been the lowest of the low. Yet there he was - so confident, cheerful and successful Hollywood ended up making a movie about him.
From what I've been studying on human nature there's more to it than just what you're stating.
Another example: Martin Seligman and one of his co-workers showed that DOGS have a range of reactions to experiments that were designed to see how they would respond to painful challenges.
Result: They found these dogs had a gamut of reactions. From give-up and lay down to die dogs to dogs that had a win-at-any-cost attitude and just didn't know the meaning of the word quit.
I mean...this is DOGS! I don't see anyone positing dogs as somehow having low self-esteem or high self-esteem (and that's always one of the things asserted one needs to have confidence). To even have self-esteem means that being has to be aware of itself.
There is more to these situations than just saying our confidence levels are all slaves to our circumstances and whatever crap Society may or may not throw at us.
Even for dogs...
Well, I'll respond with this. A quote from the post you replied to where I compared confidence in height between a man with a widely accepted and applauded height (6 feet like me) who never was anxious about it and a shorter man whose height is NOT widely accepted and applauded:
"Ask a guy about 5' 2" if he's as confident about his height as I would be. Unless he escaped ridicule or mentally overcome the social wall of ridicule from larger culture chances are he WON'T be."
There are people who derive confidence from different sources taking those things to override any insecurities in other realms. Those who may have been once ridiculed but set up a mental routine that overrode that feeling of insecurity. Then those who never faced ridicule to begin with and got much support from peers. Also it helps to have a countermedia that applauds your uniqueness and value to parry off the usual media that degrades you.
You might wanna see this clip from Paula Zahn now. A guy who is a police officer and was in the U.S. Army. A shorter man who has accomplished some things in life. Things that should bring confidence. Listen as he relates his story of suicidal thoughts to the reporter. Some may look confident but it could be a mask for a public image.
YouTube - Heightism Interview
Some more clips to look at. Bet you didn't know sperm banks discriminate against short men donating. Even China has height bias regardless that East Asians tend to be shorter people on average. I've seen clips of Asian women putting down their own men because of their height. Very shocking to me. A revelation.
YouTube - S&M: Short and Male - Women Hate Short Sperm
YouTube - S&M: Short and Male - NOSSA is For Real
YouTube - S&M: Short and Male - Heightism in China
YouTube - Why Asian Girls Go For White Guys
The kid from Mask also had a mother, played by Cher, who gave him strong grounding allowing him a mental refuge from any cruelty and harsh treatment. I received this as well which is why I'm not too anxious when people ridicule me for whatever reason.
Most likely if you've been consistently knocked down directly or indirectly in the larger culture, you will NOT have confidence in the particular realm you are downed for. Without a decent countermedia in place, it will be an uphill climb.
Some factors in this have to do with personality makeup, the particular chemistry ratios running in your brain. Some people can deal with slights better than other purely based off of this. That's the only internal defense and as we all know everybody is not created equally.
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John Lucas