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Discussion in 'Politics' started by mindseye, Oct 21, 2009.
delurking to post this amazing testimony from the state of Maine...
YouTube - Philip
Full transcript HERE
I think some explanation behind this is in order.
No surprise there.
God love you, Phillip Spooner.
It's about same sex marriage in Maine. Their Legislature made same sex marriage legal and it was signed into law by the governor. There is a Ballot Initiative to overturn it this November. This man is testifying at a public hearing. Latest Statewide polling is 48% for 48% against. Maine was the first State to make same sex marriage legal by their legislature. All of the other States it was done by the Judiciary.
Thanks. I'm surprised people in Maine want to overturn it at all.
I thought New England was better than that. Next I'll hear my state is pissed about it.
You've truly lost it (if you ever had it).
Do you understand that I was asking what the thread was about? Do you? Really?
It's not necessarily the good people of Maine who are bankrolling the Yes on 1 effort to end gay marriages in that state. There are national interests who make virtually all of their income going from state to state doing this. Does the name Maggie Gallagher ring any bells?
These are folks who will stop at nothing to make sure that marriage equality never becomes a truly national issue, and they've been very successful so far.
Actually never heard of her, but it makes sense.
It baffles me everytime I hear anyone get behind a pundit. Does anyone think for themselves anymore?
I gonna resist any snarky comments because I truly believe that you have no objection to marriage equality.
But, whether you recognize it as such or not, this is the most important and influential civil rights topic in more than a generation. Part of walking the equal-rights-for-everybody walk is understanding one's foes and, as President Obama said (on a different subject, of course) "grab a mop."
Wait what? Did you just take what I said to mean I don't think gay marriage should exist?
Okay I'm going to be nice to you unlike Nick. Please read it again. The "Makes sense" comment was towards someone bankrolling it, as that's usually how these things go.
Then read the rest the same.
I understood you clearly in each post! No worries.
Where in my first paragraph was I at all ambiguous?
The second paragraph, quoted above, was meant to get you off your ass and be more than a passive supporter of marriage equality. I understand that in Massachusetts such things are a given, but you need only look to the (nearly) bordering state of Maine to recognize that such things are not always so self-evident.
And yeah, I understand that the Hampton tolls are a royal bitch, but it's still...what? 20 miles from Newburyport to Kittery?
I'm from New England...way back.
Nana always said "If it isn't done in New England, it isn't done. And if it is, it shouldn't."
Nana was a wise old broad: much like mine.
That's the kind of attitude Nana would have been horrified by. But actually not. Because she was a total man-lover. She would have been totally charmed by you "against" her will. :biggrin1:
She loved bad boys, odd as that may seem. But maybe because they never really are.
Thanks mindseye! Good to see you about. :smile:
Nanas always loved me because I'm polite, an excellent listener and, up until recently, had a baby face that lulled them into a false sense of security
The trick to carrying off being a bad boy is to ensure that most of the world would never consider you as such: once it becomes obvious, you're merely a vagrant.
Trading baby face for handsome stud is no loss. No loss at all.