Phimosis Question

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  1. johnlocke

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    So I'm 19, and finally decided to get it checked out at my local walk-in clinic. After reading on here about stretching, and steroid creams and such, i was kinda of surprised when the doc told me the best option might be to just get cut, and refered me to a urologist for a better opinion. When I asked him about the steroid cream, he said that would only be used if my foreskin was damaged or swollen.
    I really don't want to get cut, has anyone experienced this, and gotten over it somehow? Should I really just wait untill I talk to the Urologist, instead of thinking about what this walk-in clinic doc said?
     
  2. MickeyLee

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    talk to the urologist but make sure you let the doc know that you don't see circumcisions as treatment option. then get a second opinion from another doctor. at your age the problem might still resolve it's self in time.

    steroids creams and manual stretching are the standard treatment for anything but the most severe cases of phimosis in most countries. steroids are simple, cheap and easy - 4-6 weeks of a topical applied to the foreskin/frenar band. you might want to try manual stretching and altering you masturbation habits in combo with the steroid.

    north america is not a foreskin friendly land mass, so be your penis' advocate. do a little net research, you might not find all the answers but you will come up the questions you need to ask your doctor.

    last of the ramble. circumcision is not the only surgery available to treat severe cases. the triple incision procedure is something you might want to look into if steroids and stretching don't work for you.

    ml
     
  3. D_Rawkesbye Deadheade

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    You've read about stretching and steroid creams but you didn't mention if you've tried them and to what results.

    If a year of stretching or the steroid cream (with which I do not have experience) doesn't help at all with the loosening of the foreskin then I would encourage you to seek medical advice but before that I would strongly suggest that you try these relatively safe methods of loosening up. Unless, of course, the tight foreskin is already causing you discomfort, to whatever extent, then medical attention would be more or less necessary.
     
  4. Jason

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    A view from the other side of the Atlantic (where almost no-one is cut) is that you probably don't need to be cut. In theory I should be saying listen to your doctor, but from other threads on this board it seems that doctors give different advice on either side of the Pond. If you tell an American doctor you are tight the answer is to cut. Tell a UK doctor you are tight and s/he would say come back and see me if you have any problems.

    Is it causing you pain? Is it causing frequent infections? Is it blocking urination? These would probably be reasons to be circumcised. If you haven't got a problem of this nature then why have you gone to see a doctor? Have you been listening to the daft American myth that a foreskin has to be fully retractable when the penis is erect?

    Have you had penetrative sex with a woman? Does everything work? If so why worry? If you haven't had sex and are worrying that something might not work you are almost certainly worrying needlessly (get yourself a fleshlight if you want to experiment). If you surf enough (European) porn you will find some guys who don't retract when they are hard, and as they are porn stars I think you can be confident that everything works for them.

    The penis varies a lot from man to man, including the retractability of the foreskin. You might have a tight foreskin which is still within acceptable limits, ie it causes no problems.

    Popular wisdom is that uncut guys who don't fully retract (or even don't retract at all when erect) last longer and make their woman happier. This characteristic may come to be regarded as being as desirable as having a big cock. Maybe you are especially fortunate.
     
  5. karldergrosse

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    Johnlocke, LISTEN TO MICKEYLEE! He's giving you excellent advice. Let me repeat: "steroid creams and manual stretching are the [best] treatment for anything but the most severe cases of phimosis"! Do not lightly let circumcision-crazed butchers get hold of your penis with one hand and a scalpel with the other!!! Remember, they're either lazy or greedy, or, more likely, both--circumutilation is easy and quick and profitable for them, but it's a lifetime of penile sensory loss and sexual deprivation for you! (Hospitals, too, have a vested interest in getting your foreskin--they sell amputated 'skins for BIG money to cosmetic manufacturers and others.) First, you need to determine whether you actually have a bonafide case of phimosis. A too-narrow foreskin is not necessarily full-blown phimosis. Especially at your young age, steady, regular, and gentle stretching (without pain!) should most likely do the trickfor a narrow 'skin, though it might take a while. Just don't be impatient--you will start seeing partial results relatively soon. If you have a too-short frenulum (frenulum breve), that's a good bit tougher to solve, but can at least be eased (special stretching techniques are needed for it). There, too, don't let cutting-mad surgeons sweet-talk you into having the frenulum severed--with that cut go hundreds, possibly thousands, of vital nerve interconnections. Remember: there's nothing magic about being able to retract to the balls, nor is there anything tragic about lliving with a bit of tightness, so long as everything functions well otherwise. But if finally all else fails and more radical means do become absolutely necessary for your health and well-being, there are options short of complete circumcision. MickeyLee mentions one; then there's the dorsal slit (not particularly attractive, but better than losing everything); then partial circumcision, which may take the important frenar band, but leave other valuable tissue, including the all-important frenulum; or, as a last, absolutely medically necessary resort, complete but careful circumcison which leaves the frenulum intact. For frenulum breve, frenuloplasty (NOT frenulectomy!!!) will be performed by some surgeons, not by others (who fear formation of scar tissue which can possibly be worse than the original condition). ~~ So, to come to a close, let me state that I have no medical background per se, but as a rabid Intactivist who occasionally advises men on these matters, I try to keep abreast of all possibilities. If you'd like further information (stretching techniques for tight foreskin or frenulum breve, for instance), feel free to PM me (I can't speak for MickeyLee, of course, as I don't know him). Whatever you decide, all the best of luck to you, buddy...will keep my fingers crossed for you.

    Addendum: Forestblahblah and Jason slso are worth listening to--they just happened to come in between me and MickeyLee while I was writing.
     
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    Just had a look at your gallery pics. I'm claiming no medical expertise but I doubt you have a problem. "Sleepy" demonstrates what is probably an adequate opening. Don't let the butchers chop something off you (and on your side of the Pond charge you for their butchery). If you want to use a cream I suppose use it, but do you even need or want to do this?
     
  7. johnlocke

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    I felt that I wouldn't try stretching or creams without talking to a doctor first.

    When I'm fully erect, and try and pull my foreskin back, the surface area of a dime is about how much of my glans get exposed before my foreskin really starts to hurt.
    Sex isn't really a problem, but only if there is more than adequate lube. Doesn't matter how wet my gf is, if there isn't lube, then I will not get more than an inch in until I start experiencing considerable discomfort.

    It's not something that is absolutely killing me, but I feel that if I can loosen it up at least a bit, then why not.

    I really appreciate all the replies, thanks a lot.

    PS - I will NOT be getting cut, regardless of what the doctors say.
     
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  8. Jason

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    I guess you have pretty much answered your own question.:wink:
     
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    You can stretch it yourself over time johnlocke. There are online guides, but basically you just need common sense. Use your fingers. Or find something that is easily cleaned that can be comfortable inserted and worn while you go about your daily activities. Could be anything. Gradually increase the size as the opening expands until you have it the way you want it. Seen how people increase the size of the holes in their earlobes? The principle is the same, except the preputial lips are much more elastic than cartilaginous earlobes.
     
  10. erratic

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    johnlocke, I've had two similar experiences as yours. I went to a urologist because of some chafing on my penis and because of swelling in my testicles and on both accounts was recommended to be circumcised. I actually told one of them that his advice was ridiculous and asked if he just needed new golf clubs. Surprisingly, that got me referred to someone who actually knew how to actually ask me questions and actually see what I wanted. So the second time I just asked to see someone else cause getting cut over swollen balls wasn't in the cards (P.S. when I told the referral I was sent to what the original doctor recommended she was shocked). Moral of the story: If you know damn well there's another way around the issue find a doctor who will help you with that. This is Canada. Healthcare is a right here, not a privilege. My advice: Go see a doctor, tell the doctor the problem and how you definitely don't want to deal with it, and if the doctor says "I can't help you" then ask for a referral to someone who can. Doctors cannot refuse referrals unless you're dying on their table right then and there.
     
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    i'm curious about your jo history. you say ur 19, when did u start jakin off and how frequently?

    I'm uc and never had a problem with my skin being tight, but i started jakin off at 11 and like all new toys played with it furiously (still do, this is the one toy i never get bored with)

    so i'm wondering if in many of the cases of tight foreskin if it might be caused by not enuff excercise when your dick really started to grow big(early puberty), and the skin just never gets stretched out to accomodate your adult size dik along the way?

    maybe jaking early and often accomplishes an incremental stretching , and guys that don't start early or do it often enuff, have to try and catch up at a much later age, and all at once?
     
  12. SirConcis

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    Your masturbation method developped/adapted to a tight foreskin and this is partly the cause for your skin never having loosened up.

    If you go through the stretching/steroid method, you will have to make a very conscious effort to change your masturbation method to ensure you pully retract your foreksin on every downstroke to keep it loose otherwise you may see your foreksin tighten back up over the years.

    Changing masturbation method is easier said than done.
     
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    Very true. Some guys whose JO method emphasizes only pulling forward instead of forward and back can exacerbate an existing problem (e.g., if they previously injured themselves and let the preputial muscle tissue tighten). Here is an example on one guy, which fortunately I don't think is johnlocke's problem.

    Sounds from another thread like jl's got it licked, though.
     

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    If you are not in exceptional pain, I would advise you just to constantly use lubrication when stimulating your penis. Even if it doesn't loosen up much over time, it will make sexual activity more comfortable, and introducing lubrication into your sex life permanently is easy as pie. Good luck!
     
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    Hi John Locke:

    Your phimosis looks like it is minimal and would be responsive to manual stretching.


    It is normal for teens to have a foreskin that does not retract. One’s foreskin is still developing. One can help it develop by stretching it.

    The goal is to have a foreskin that glides smoothly back and forth so as to provide maximum pleasure.

    When your penis is erect, gently pull your foreskin back against the head of the penis. As the head attempts to pass through the foreskin it will stretch the skin a little. Do this every day and in a few weeks or months your foreskin will widen and you will be able to retract your foreskin. Do NOT force retraction. Do NOT cause yourself pain.

    It works by tissue expansion. Stretching skin induces “mitosis” which is a word that means “division of cells”. New skin cells are formed and the skin expands but it takes some time. The increase in size is permanent. Be patient and give mitosis time to work.

    The important thing is to put the skin under tension every day so that it will grow wider.

    Search the Internet for:

    “How to Fix Phimosis and Tight Foreskins, Solutions That Work”

    and you will find the information and support you need.


    It is never necessary to be circumcised. Non-retractile foreskin is not a reason to get a circumcision. Circumcision is a very destructive, damaging, and harmful operation. Furthermore, it is an ELECTIVE operation that in only done with the consent of the patient.

    Check these websites for more information:

    Fixing tight foreskins and phimosis

    no circumcision: Stretching To Fix Tight Foreskin (Phimosis)

    The Development of Retractile Foreskin in the Child and Adolescent

    Phimosis – genitalwholeness

    Tissue expansion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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